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Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by sbr464 » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 5:02 PM UTC

Aardwolf wrote: post #13

Question totally off topic, related to writing rather than 3D printing! They call it not just the "HP Jet Fusion 580 Color 3D Printer", but the "HP Jet Fusion 580 Color 3D Printing Solution" When I myself would be the target audience, "3D printer" sells better than "3D printing solution" I think. Do you know what the true target audience they are writing for is, and if it really genuinely is so that there are such au…

I feel like the printing solution verbiage could be fitting since current 3d printing workflows include steps like cleanup, chemical washing or baths and heat curing before having a finished product. Compared to a current desktop printer where you press a button and have the final product. Definitely curious to check out this model and other tech coming soon!

Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by jotux » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 5:03 PM UTC

It's very similar to the Projet x60 (formerly ZPrinters) or projet 4500 series printers from 3D systems. The printer lays down thin layers of powder material then goes by with a bonding agent and color as it prints. The prints are relatively cheap because after the print you can vacuum up the excess material and use it in subsequent prints.

Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by jagger27 » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 5:04 PM UTC

rfraile wrote: post #8

Apart - Why they use the url with the "www8." name instead of "www."?

www8.hp.com has two A records that point to Akamai. My guess is that it's easier to mess with a subdomain for global CDN stuff than the top level.

Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by jpalomaki » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 5:05 PM UTC

diggan wrote: post #7

Maybe my understanding of "Reinvent the wheel" is wrong, but I always took it as "spend time inventing something that already exists", basically wasting your time. Didn't think it was a positive term you want to put on your landing page.

See for example Michelin "reinventing" the wheel [1]. Taking old stuff and recreating them with new kind of internal structure which is made possible by 3d printing.

[1] https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/07/michelin-vision-biodegra...

Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by negus » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 5:05 PM UTC

I bet, they started with cartridges with anti-refill chip, and only then proceeded with the printer itself

Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by bob_theslob646 » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 5:06 PM UTC

How does this printer differ from other 3D printers on the market?

Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by voxadam » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 5:07 PM UTC

Aardwolf wrote: post #13

Question totally off topic, related to writing rather than 3D printing! They call it not just the "HP Jet Fusion 580 Color 3D Printer", but the "HP Jet Fusion 580 Color 3D Printing Solution" When I myself would be the target audience, "3D printer" sells better than "3D printing solution" I think. Do you know what the true target audience they are writing for is, and if it really genuinely is so that there are such au…

Maybe HP is doing there best to steer clear of anything that might result in Stratasys suing them.

Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by wishinghand » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 5:08 PM UTC

rfraile wrote: post #8

Apart - Why they use the url with the "www8." name instead of "www."?

Gibson Guitars used to do this too with www2, but it looks like they've cleaned up their act.

Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by jotux » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 5:09 PM UTC

RobinL wrote: post #18

grenoire wrote: post #2

Good Lord, these things are humongous. Not your average hobbyist printer for sure.

In the long run I hope that the model for this kind of thing will be 'printing as a service', much like how historically you went to a shop to get photos developed. It'd be amazing to be able to upload a design and pick it up/get it delivered next day, for the 'commodity cost' of the printing.

There are a lot of companies already doing this: Shapeways, Ponoko, Stratasys direct, 3dhubs, proto labs, etc. Most have a 2-5 day turnaround but you can pay to expedite and get parts next day.

I have two 3D printers in-house at my job (Projet 460 and 3500HD) which we use for day-to-day prototyping and we commonly go to outside companies for limited production runs.

Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by theobon » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 5:09 PM UTC

Aardwolf wrote: post #13

Question totally off topic, related to writing rather than 3D printing! They call it not just the "HP Jet Fusion 580 Color 3D Printer", but the "HP Jet Fusion 580 Color 3D Printing Solution" When I myself would be the target audience, "3D printer" sells better than "3D printing solution" I think. Do you know what the true target audience they are writing for is, and if it really genuinely is so that there are such au…

For a company about to spend ~$250,000 on the ability to fabricate 3d models in house "3D Printing Solution" does message better. A 3D printer is just an expensive tool that requires expensive software and expensive people to make it work. A 3D Printing Solution implies a complete suite from installation to software to support that doesn't require investing in specialized skills.