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Post by TheAdamAndChe »

mattmanser wrote: post #225
nailer wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand and agree with your point, but being overly focused on an artists sex (which is annoying) is not the same thing as hating women.

Yeah, I ummed over using that word but left it in as it feels as if the original categorisation by Google was done by a misogynist which the algo learned from. The malice is learned. If you look at Hole, for example, a classic grunge band you can love or hate, most "related artists" are female artists. The Pumpkins and Nirvana are mixed in as token includes, one because it was her husband, the other because Billy Cor…

> it feels as if the original categorisation by Google was done by a misogynist which the algo learned from

No, it was left in for people like me that _do_ have a strong preference for the voice of the singer. I love my trance music with smooth female vocals, and having men in that mix would be unenjoyable for me.

I think a nice feature for apps like this would be optional granular control of the aspects of the mix that you want. If votes lead to parts of a mix that you don't like(like certain vocals), it would be nice if I could explicitly remove that from the mix.

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Post by malshe »

yash1th wrote: post #90
sanjeetsuhag wrote: post #10

Honestly, I can't imagine switching to Apple Music. Speaking as a guy who owns an iPhone and a Mac. I love being able to smoothly control playback from any device. I love how seamless the experience is, I've only tried the Apple Music Trial when it first came out and I can't see any possible reason to switch to it now. Spotify is excellent for music discovery, and I love the top songs and everything. It's perfect. It…

One thing that made me choose apple music over spotify is the indian music library. It’s way more better in Apple music

Exactly my reason. Spotify has such a limited collection of Indian music and within that regional music that there is no way I will ever pay for it. In contrast Apple Music has a wide selection.

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Post by jdlyga »

I was a subscriber to Apple Music for almost a year, until I realized I wasn't discovering music anymore. It's very nice having a combined streaming and local library. But that alone isn't worth it. I've discovered so many new artists and songs through Spotify using their suggested playlists, related artists, Spotify radio, etc.

You also can't beat their multi-device interoperability. I can use my iPhone to listen, but control playback through the linux desktop app, for example.

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Post by zild3d »

mattmanser wrote: post #225
nailer wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand and agree with your point, but being overly focused on an artists sex (which is annoying) is not the same thing as hating women.

Yeah, I ummed over using that word but left it in as it feels as if the original categorisation by Google was done by a misogynist which the algo learned from. The malice is learned. If you look at Hole, for example, a classic grunge band you can love or hate, most "related artists" are female artists. The Pumpkins and Nirvana are mixed in as token includes, one because it was her husband, the other because Billy Cor…

Checking Spotify for related artists to Nirvana: Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, Foo Fighters, Smashing Pumpkins

Oh dear! All male, not even the single female that Google provided. Spotify must be even more misogynist... or perhaps these bands are just the most commonly listened to by people who listen to Nirvana [1]

"Spotify's related artists and radio are determined by algorithms which look at what people listen to alongside your music."

[1] https://community.spotify.com/t5/Content-Questions/quot-Rela...

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Post by vr46 »

fortythirteen wrote: post #221
vr46 wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like the senator breached terms and conditions by trying to use songs to promote HIS agenda and the artists objected, and Spotify doesn't allow that anyway, so canned his playlist.

So if I make a playlist and then Tweet about it, and some content curator at Spotify doesn't like me, they're going to delete my playlist? Notice I didn't say that don't have the right to do what they want with their business, it's just a crappy move. I wonder if Christian or Muslim artists asked that their music not be on a LGBT figure's playlist, if Spotify would ban the whole playlist, like they did here.

Steady on: firstly, this is not average Joe or Josephine here, it's a politician using Artists on Spotify and their music to make a political stunt, so it's not like Spotify have politicized anything. Secondly, the artists themselves complained about it, and somebody reported the issue to Spotify. Using musicians to promote an agenda they disagree with is hardly an innocent act when a politician does it.

FWIW, Spotify have denied deleting the playlist, so this may well be more publicity-seeking behaviour from the politician in question. The truth appears to be buried somewhat, but it doesn't look as bad as you suggest for Spotify...

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Post by dawnerd »

wyclif wrote: post #129
dawnerd wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure that’s not a thing anymore if you’re on their newer plans.

Really? Where do their policies spell this out?

https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-10969

Note that their new one plans are excluded because one plans are already "unlimited".

https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-24291

Also states this.

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Post by Jonnax »

fortythirteen wrote: post #198

I have grown increasingly disgusted with Spotify pushing a political agenda inside their app. The last place I want to have politics shoved in my face is my music streaming service, whether I agree with the stance or not. Yet it seems, at least once a month, the banner of the desktop app is decidedly pushing a playlist promoting one side of the political agenda du jour. With them recently banning the personal playlis…

"pushing political agenda" "politics shoved in my face" "don't agree with his politics"

It's always the same boring meme phrases. I know that having a persecution complex is effective politicking but it comes off immature.

I read the article you posted. You should understand that an individual artist is more important to Spotify than an individual user to Spotify. Especially artists like: Men At Work and Savage Garden

The playlist was called Australian Conservatives and was a public playlist. If you're advertising it, then it's not personal. Normally if you want music associated with your brand, a company or political party has to pay. And artists have the right to refuse.

It looks like Darren Hayes posted this:

Hi @CoryBernadi and @AuConservatives. I do not want to be associated with you, your party or your views. Remove my music from this stunt or expect contact from my publisher.

Responding like this doesn't really work in the real world:

“Get over yourself darrenhayes. Music is for everyone.” Bernardi tweeted.

Re: Apple Music on Track to Overtake Spotify in U.S. Subscribers

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Post by fortythirteen »

Jonnax wrote: post #237
fortythirteen wrote: post #198

I have grown increasingly disgusted with Spotify pushing a political agenda inside their app. The last place I want to have politics shoved in my face is my music streaming service, whether I agree with the stance or not. Yet it seems, at least once a month, the banner of the desktop app is decidedly pushing a playlist promoting one side of the political agenda du jour. With them recently banning the personal playlis…

"pushing political agenda" "politics shoved in my face" "don't agree with his politics" It's always the same boring meme phrases. I know that having a persecution complex is effective politicking but it comes off immature. I read the article you posted. You should understand that an individual artist is more important to Spotify than an individual user to Spotify. Especially artists like: Men At Work and Savage Garde…

> "pushing political agenda" "politics shoved in my face" "don't agree with his politics"

Spotify has company created playlists specifically for the travel ban and DACA, permanently in the Browse section. Yes, they are pushing their agenda in users' faces.

Why not just remove the complaining artists? Why remove the entire playlist?

Do you believe that if the political roles were reversed between politician and artist that Spotify would nuke the whole playlist? I sure don't.

You may agree with Spotify's politics, but that doesn't invalidate my point.

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Post by fortythirteen »

vr46 wrote: post #235
fortythirteen wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if I make a playlist and then Tweet about it, and some content curator at Spotify doesn't like me, they're going to delete my playlist? Notice I didn't say that don't have the right to do what they want with their business, it's just a crappy move. I wonder if Christian or Muslim artists asked that their music not be on a LGBT figure's playlist, if Spotify would ban the whole playlist, like they did here.

Steady on: firstly, this is not average Joe or Josephine here, it's a politician using Artists on Spotify and their music to make a political stunt, so it's not like Spotify have politicized anything. Secondly, the artists themselves complained about it, and somebody reported the issue to Spotify. Using musicians to promote an agenda they disagree with is hardly an innocent act when a politician does it. FWIW, Spotif…

It's definitely a he said/she said situation, but it's between two very politically active entities. Spotify still has an anti-travel ban playlist in their browse section after almost a year.

It's their business and they can do what they want, but they are in no way coming from a politically neutral standpoint.

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Post by KevanM »

dx034 wrote: post #215
KevanM wrote: post #202

I use Google Play Music because it has a block explicit songs switch, which is perfect for family journeys.

Spotify has that as well, they included explicit warnings a while back.

Really, that was one of the reasons I left. I might look again.
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