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Apple Music on Track to Overtake Spotify in U.S. Subscribers

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Re: Apple Music on Track to Overtake Spotify in U.S. Subscribers

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Post by rahoulb »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #199
rahoulb wrote: post #186

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Don't get me wrong - as I've stated elsewhere on here, I don't like Apple Music and it annoys me greatly. But Apple Music is only usable with an optional subscription payment and can easily be uninstalled (pseudo-uninstalled) from an iPhone. It does integrate with Siri, which other music services cannot do, and it streams music on the Apple Watch, which other music services cannot (or will not) do. But it's not essen…

> It does integrate with Siri, which other music services cannot do, and it streams music on the Apple Watch, which other music services cannot (or will not) do. Any idea why? I think they would probably add this if Apple would provide a reasonable way to. Does anybody know if Siri and Apple Watch expose nice APIs that would let you integrate your iPhone app with them? > And the iPhone has a 30-40% market share or le…

I see no reason for Apple not to allow music access for Siri - they have opened it up to other categories of app but have left music out and the only reason I can think of it to prevent competition.

I've heard conflicting reports about the state of the streaming APIs on the Apple Watch. Certainly, it's Apple's standard playbook to test an API with their internal products first before releasing it to others, and as the Apple Watch 3 is only a few months old, I will give them the benefit of the doubt here.

I'm not sure about your point on market-share. Apple may be the biggest single phone manufacturer, but they still can't bully people the way Microsoft did, because 60-70% of people aren't using them - it's platform share that counts here.

(And yes, the majority of my contacts are on iPhones, but when it comes to group messaging I use WhatsApp because that's the only way I can be sure not to leave anyone out).

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Post by freehunter »

rb808 wrote: post #95
freehunter wrote: post #30

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I have just one complaint, and it's the Siri integration. I was having a frustrating day and I like a playlist called something like "chill" or "just chill" or "relax" or something like that... so I ask Siri to play relaxing music. Can't find it. Siri, play chill music. Can't find it. Siri, play chill playlist. You don't have a playlist called chill. Siri play calming music. Now playing Daft Punk "I Feel It Coming".…

On iTunes I see Chill Radio, Spa Radio, Down Tempo Radio and Electronic Radio which is pretty slow. I don't have Siri but maybe you should ask for one of those.

The point is Siri should have just a tiny bit of fuzziness so I don't have to say the exact right words. If I say "play classic rock" she does. If I say "play 80s music" she does. Not playing chill music when I ask breaks that expectation.

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Post by graeme »

I tried Apple music, then realized it cancels the ability to sync music from itunes.

Why?......

I immediately shut off apple music and icloud music library once I learned that. Which is a shame, as I'd love to be able to stream from my watch.

But, none of the other music services destroy the functionality of my phone.

Yes, I'm sure I could learn how to use icloud music library. But I don't want to. I just want to be able to take a file from my computer and put it on my phone. I guess that's power user behaviour these days.

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Post by jeffhuys »

gurkendoktor wrote: post #156
rahoulb wrote: post #139

I tried Apple Music for 6 months, and spent that time diligently training it to my tastes. My latest "favourites mix" had 12 songs that I had to mark as "dislike" after all that training. Likewise the "for you"playlists are garbage - just because I like a couple of songs by guitar bands doesn't mean I want to listen to hours and hours of them. Apple Music on Apple Watch 3 is amazing - leaving a phone at home is stran…

> the big advantage of Spotify is I don't always need to think about what I want to listen to This is huge when I'm trying to stay in the flow while programming. Spotify is like a personal DJ that really groks how I work, especially now that it silently continues playing matching tracks when a playlist ends. With Apple Music, I ended up switching back to iTunes at least once an hour. I really hope they won't be able…

They (Spotify) also have some kind of awesome new playlist feature that mixes the songs together automatically. The "Trap Vibes" (don't judge) playlist uses that feature, I'd say try it! Play at least 2-3 songs and notice how gapless they transition into eachother. It really works great. I hope it's automated and not based on cuepoints (it probably is, though).

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Post by noxToken »

jeffhuys wrote: post #205
gurkendoktor wrote: post #156

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> the big advantage of Spotify is I don't always need to think about what I want to listen to This is huge when I'm trying to stay in the flow while programming. Spotify is like a personal DJ that really groks how I work, especially now that it silently continues playing matching tracks when a playlist ends. With Apple Music, I ended up switching back to iTunes at least once an hour. I really hope they won't be able…

They (Spotify) also have some kind of awesome new playlist feature that mixes the songs together automatically. The "Trap Vibes" (don't judge) playlist uses that feature, I'd say try it! Play at least 2-3 songs and notice how gapless they transition into eachother. It really works great. I hope it's automated and not based on cuepoints (it probably is, though).

Literally just found this feature this morning. It was awesome that it also adds the fade effect even if you skip a song. Gapless playback used to be a feature that was only active when the track came its end naturally.

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Post by jeffhuys »

acct1771 wrote: post #126
dingaling wrote: post #122

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> I now have four additional completely useless Google Accounts I wouldn't call them useless. With Google's propensity for algorithmicaly-determined account suspension it's probably wise to have dedicated accounts for each combination of ( person / device ) * ( Google service ). Certainly I would encourage anyone with a reliance on G-Mail to create separate accounts for other services.

Does anyone know if this is against their ToS? Not that I give a good goddamn, but, I just realized I'd always assumed it probably was, but have never bothered to check.

Well, check it, then! You never bothered to check but you're already waiting for 7 hours now... ;p

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Post by tjr225 »

adamrt wrote: post #162
tjr225 wrote: post #105

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I feel like the only person on the planet who finds spotify annoying and its library shallow. I really am not trying to sound pretentious. Full disclosure I say this as someone who doesn't pay for their service, so I don't know how it is if you do, but if you shuffle play an artist- it will automatically play suggested songs. This makes 0 sense to me. I specifically wanted to listen to that artist and if I wanted sug…

It makes sense. You don’t pay and it acts like a radio station (suggesting songs). You do pay and it’s like a music library (play what you want).

I find their unpaid for application annoying, then(yes I know that's the point).

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Post by lev99 »

yeahdef wrote: post #125
sanjeetsuhag wrote: post #10

Honestly, I can't imagine switching to Apple Music. Speaking as a guy who owns an iPhone and a Mac. I love being able to smoothly control playback from any device. I love how seamless the experience is, I've only tried the Apple Music Trial when it first came out and I can't see any possible reason to switch to it now. Spotify is excellent for music discovery, and I love the top songs and everything. It's perfect. It…

Another perspective: I am less concerned with music discovery or seamless device hand-offs. I know what I want to listen to. As a former club DJ, I accrued a large amount of records that are simply unavailable via streaming networks. I recently starting ripping a lot of those vinyl records to mp3. I have tried spotify, google play music, and Apple Music. Apple Music is the clear winner when it comes to the importing,…

I agree. I own a lot of music (some legal digital downloads, some rips from CDs and vinyl) that isn't available for streaming on any platform. Apple Music is the best at allowing me to mix in my library with theirs.

Many people subscribe to Spotify even if they also subscribe to Prime because Spotify has more music. Apple Music is one step further.

Publishing to a streaming service isn't always a good deal for small acts. It's important for independent musicians that some music listeners are willing to buy directly from them to decrease their margin. In addition, even some larger bands, Tool being a prime example, are absent from streaming services. I'm concerned with how much power streaming services will have as they consume a lager and larger part of the music industry. It creates a new cultural gatekeeper, and the internet is best when is removes cultural gatekeeper.

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