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16 year old app developer: Plagiarist or Prodigy?

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Re: 16 year old app developer: Plagiarist or Prodigy?

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Post by rep_movsd »

ealexhudson wrote: post #23

I have to say, I found the "story" very leading. A lot of inconclusive evidence labelled a lot stronger than it deserves, especially the "confession". The reality of a lot of app development now is that you can go a long way by not doing very much. Ok, so the git graph shows another developer committed many more lines: since when have we, as an industry, taken KLOC as a serious measure of anything?? Those lines of co…

I actually have the entire source code so I have enough evidence. Obviously I can't reveal it since it would be illegal.

But she gave it to me of her own free will, and if you think 10000 lines can be SO'd then you live in a bubble

Re: 16 year old app developer: Plagiarist or Prodigy?

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Post by FRex »

MarkCole wrote: post #17

This reads a lot like an attack. Yes its clear they did not program their app 100% themselves. I fail to see how it's such a big deal. Especially one that requires posts on multiple platforms targeting her. The other developers seem happy for her to take the credit, presumably as its good for marketing. Who is this really hurting?

When someone very prominently says they made an app, someone else says they didn't and the first person responds with calling them jobless, disturbed and a harasser then the gloves are off. And it hardly reads like an attack to me anyway, there are no insults, no ill wishes to her career or life, it's just very firm.

Re: 16 year old app developer: Plagiarist or Prodigy?

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Post by Shinchy »

I could understand if the App did something amazing, but it's just a basic Crypto tracking app - there are thousands of these already on the App Store. I'm sure she did work on it to some extent, it's nothing spectacular. Looks like a fairly basic 'follow the tutorial' first App, but maybe that's just me.

Re: 16 year old app developer: Plagiarist or Prodigy?

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Post by dspillett »

thomasfoster96 wrote: post #6
jjevanoorschot wrote: post #3

"Such kind of people give Women in Code a really, really bad name, because sweetie, it takes tonnes of hardwork, cutting through competition, persistent dealing with sexism and lot of patience to make place for yourself in this male-dominant coveted industry." It's quite ironic that in a sentence about sexism and a male-dominated industry, the author addresses the developer by 'sweetie'.

Given the author appears to be female, I suspect the irony is entirely on purpose.

Specifically, I think she is using it in much the same manner as in Chris Rock used the "n" word in his "Black People vs. Niggaz" stand-up skit.

Either that or she is being deliberately patronising towards perceived innocence, also for comedic effect.

Re: 16 year old app developer: Plagiarist or Prodigy?

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Post by FRex »

TomK32 wrote: post #14

Young women interested in programming rare enough, let her get some help, let her have all the praise, that's okay. In years to come she'll hopefully stick to the field and that's what is important. Not that she wrote 100% of her app. What we must never forget, writing the code is just the small part, marketing and selling software is the bigger challenge. She's obviously good at that and will prevail no matter what…

So she can plagiarise an app, call her critic a jobless harasser and get away with it all just because she is a woman?

If this is tolerated at large it will have a chilling effect on any young person (including young women) who looks and sees people like her because they will think they are too stupid for tech since they can't make an entire app in 2 months. It will also have a chilling effect on all men and women in tech. Men will be afraid of criticizing women and secretly doubting their competence and women will be coddled, depraved of criticism and doubted as being there for reason other than their own skill.

IMO it has already happened to a degree in USA. In Poland no one sane would doubt a woman in tech or be afraid of criticizing her but in USA it's getting very murky, especially after stuff like [0].

[0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14480868

Re: 16 year old app developer: Plagiarist or Prodigy?

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Post by sus_007 »

Shinchy wrote: post #43

I could understand if the App did something amazing, but it's just a basic Crypto tracking app - there are thousands of these already on the App Store. I'm sure she did work on it to some extent, it's nothing spectacular. Looks like a fairly basic 'follow the tutorial' first App, but maybe that's just me.

It's not about the complexity of the app that bothers me, it's the praise she is getting from people for falsely claiming that she solely developed the app with negligible help from other devs which turns out to be completely untrue.

Re: 16 year old app developer: Plagiarist or Prodigy?

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #9
psergeant wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you believe sweetie is a gendered word?

It seems to be one of those loaded words that's often used by a certain type of man to put women "in their place".

I don't know any man who would use this word except towards his daughter (when she's quite small). It's unthinkable any man would use this word in such a way - in a public post, patronizing towards a young girl. It would be an PR suicide, and the result would be contrary to his expectations.
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