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Daily Facebook users drops for the first time in US

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Re: Daily Facebook users drops for the first time in US

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Post by golergka »

simias wrote: post #10

I see many people clamoring for the death of Facebook but don't they own many of the up-and-coming social networks anyway? If people are ditching Facebook for Instagram you might as well switch to cocaine to stop your crack addiction.

Chats. Most of my friends and me have most of our social interactions in private chat groups, with silly pictures and pictures, personal stories and drama happening all the time.

I've tried most of the big ones (except WeChat and other chinese apps, where I don't have a single peer), and I bet on Telegram. They're moving forward with incredible speed, and from all the competitors, they seem to understand their audience and usage patterns best.

Also, it's a platform that's already actively used for commerce. Just like with Bitcoin and darknet, drugs are the primary growth factor (I don't know of any other transactions cryptocurrency is actually used as currency). I expect that after they release their own currency, it will take over all existing crypto from sheer convenience.

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Post by thejosh »

golergka wrote: post #21
simias wrote: post #10

I see many people clamoring for the death of Facebook but don't they own many of the up-and-coming social networks anyway? If people are ditching Facebook for Instagram you might as well switch to cocaine to stop your crack addiction.

Chats. Most of my friends and me have most of our social interactions in private chat groups, with silly pictures and pictures, personal stories and drama happening all the time. I've tried most of the big ones (except WeChat and other chinese apps, where I don't have a single peer), and I bet on Telegram. They're moving forward with incredible speed, and from all the competitors, they seem to understand their audien…

Only reason I use FB is chat as well, simply because friends and family still use it.

Only reason I still have a FB account and not simply a messenger account is spotify is tied to it and I can't unlink from FB as the login source..

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Post by DiThi »

minor3rd wrote: post #18
fwdpropaganda wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did leave Google search. I so did many others on HN.

So... .000005% of the population?

Change and growth must start somewhere. I've used DDG for years but only recently I started recommending it to everybody, and endorsing Firefox as well.

Re: Daily Facebook users drops for the first time in US

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Post by nukeop »

Facebook has recently hit 2 billion total users. Given that we have somewhere around 7 billion people on the planet, this seems to be the unbeatable ceiling. Let's estimate generously that half of the world's population has access to internet. That gives us 3.5 billion people. Around 750 million of these people are Chinese - they don't, and can't use Facebook. This leaves us with 2,750,000 people - many of which won't be interested in using Facebook, or can't have an account for a multitude of reasons, such as being too young (let's say under 10), or too old (let's say over 75). Clearly there isn't much room for Facebook to grow now. If there's no room to grow, there is nowhere to go but down. It can be therefore predicted that, subtracting bots, the daily users will start dropping regularly very soon, and will keep on dropping as people move away from this platform due to its diminishing popularity, because of network effects.

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Post by cx_in_the_chat »

dazc wrote: post #14
cx_in_the_chat wrote: post #11

I wonder when the next "facebook" will come along. I predict people will abandon facebook just as they did with myspace, as soon as something new, cleaner and with less spam will be available to migrate to. Of course after some period of time the new service will also end up filled with memes and ads and the cycle will continue once again.

Isn't it more a case of facebook's audience fragmentation towards snapchat, whatsapp, etc?

Perhaps, but snapchat and whatsapp are more specialized services eg. with focus on stories or messaging whereas facebook offers the whole package so to speak. That's something people will always value I think.

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Post by jimmies »

thejosh wrote: post #23
golergka wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chats. Most of my friends and me have most of our social interactions in private chat groups, with silly pictures and pictures, personal stories and drama happening all the time. I've tried most of the big ones (except WeChat and other chinese apps, where I don't have a single peer), and I bet on Telegram. They're moving forward with incredible speed, and from all the competitors, they seem to understand their audien…

Only reason I use FB is chat as well, simply because friends and family still use it. Only reason I still have a FB account and not simply a messenger account is spotify is tied to it and I can't unlink from FB as the login source..

Messenger-with-a-phone-number-account is just a Facebook account in disguise. They just don't show you the login credentials. Under circumstances, you can obtain the login token to log in the web interface and it would behave just like a Facebook account with some restrictions.

It might look different to most people, but given one still gets a "restricted" Facebook account created behind the scenes with a messenger account, I don't think people understand the privacy implications of that. See my other top-level post for my take on the issue.

Re: Daily Facebook users drops for the first time in US

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Post by kristianc »

cx_in_the_chat wrote: post #11

I wonder when the next "facebook" will come along. I predict people will abandon facebook just as they did with myspace, as soon as something new, cleaner and with less spam will be available to migrate to. Of course after some period of time the new service will also end up filled with memes and ads and the cycle will continue once again.

The MySpace comparison is a little tired. MySpace felt big, but even at its peak, only had 75m MAUs. Even Pinterest today has over twice as many, between 175m and 200m. Facebook is at 2.2bn, and its DAILY active users are 184m. Extrapolated over a month, this blip accounts for half of MySpace's MAUs. There's some pretty serious network effects there, to the point where building a slightly better mousetrap is not going to work.

2009 was also a loooong time ago: the App Store had just been born, people were just starting to use Twitter, the Android platform was just getting going and 25% of all PC sales in Europe were netbooks. MySpace was barely even accessed by people using smartphones.

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