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Apple Music on Track to Overtake Spotify in U.S. Subscribers

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Post by rahoulb »

fnordsensei wrote: post #120

Does Apple Music offer something comparable to Spotify's Discover Weekly playlists?

They have a weekly "favourites mix", "new music mix", and "chill mix".

In my experience the choices that Apple Music make are extremely poor, even after months of training. Spotify seems to know what I like, Apple Music has no idea.

(Also Apple Music has nothing like the Daily Mixes, which also work really well for me; it suggests a daily set of playlists for you, but again, Apple Music doesn't seem to have learnt what I like, so these are pretty useless)

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Post by dang »

anfilt wrote: post #137
dang wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News? We eventually ban accounts that keep doing that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Most my comments are not unsubstantiated. However, when comes to Apple. I am not going to be nice. I don't like how they closed off their ecosystem is. I hate how they do stupid things in for sake of fashion. They claim to innovative, but really just repackage existing tech, and force you into their ecosystem. It's just an attempt of vendor lock in. Then you have mindless sheeple drooling over their products. However…

From a moderation point of view, Apple is not the issue here, the issue is your posting unsubstantive comments to HN. We ban accounts that won't stop doing that, so please stop doing that.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by rahoulb »

on_and_off wrote: post #16
adamnemecek wrote: post #3

And here I was thinking they were fighting a lost battle.

How so ? Isn't Apple Music Pre-installed on all iOS devices ? That's a huge advantage that most new services don't have. (I realize Play Music has the same advantage on Android but Google has completely failed to even try to promote this service)

There's no free tier, apart from a one-off trial, so the preinstall doesn't count for much.

The CarPlay and Apple Watch apps and Siri integration are the main advantages AM has over Spotify (Spotify's CarPlay app is so buggy it's dangerous).

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Post by designcode »

remir wrote: post #114
heavymark wrote: post #26

I like I'm sure many predicted this would be inevitable regardless how better one product is over another. At the end of the day Spotify can't compete with Apple's budget, and music streaming isn't a long term profitable business on it's own. I love Apple and deep into their ecosystem. However, certainly not a fan of Apple Music. When using on the Mac iTunes is rather horrific since everytime I search it searches loc…

I'm personally getting tired of ecosystem lock-ins, so Spotify is a great alternative because they're available everywhere. Also, the UX of Spotify Connect is great.

Apple Music is available on multiple platforms

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Post by scarface74 »

Axsuul wrote: post #72
heavymark wrote: post #26

I like I'm sure many predicted this would be inevitable regardless how better one product is over another. At the end of the day Spotify can't compete with Apple's budget, and music streaming isn't a long term profitable business on it's own. I love Apple and deep into their ecosystem. However, certainly not a fan of Apple Music. When using on the Mac iTunes is rather horrific since everytime I search it searches loc…

You're talking like Spotify's days are numbered. Spotify has many ways it can outcompete Apple on, not just budget. Just like Lyft did with Uber, DuckDuckGo with Google, etc. This is not a winner-takes-all market. What Apple has done here is they've captured their ecosystem users that likely would have never signed up with Spotify in the first place.

Spotify still isn't profitable. It's hard to make your whole business around something that larger companies (Apple, Google, Amazon) see as just a feature.

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Post by Axsuul »

scarface74 wrote: post #145
Axsuul wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're talking like Spotify's days are numbered. Spotify has many ways it can outcompete Apple on, not just budget. Just like Lyft did with Uber, DuckDuckGo with Google, etc. This is not a winner-takes-all market. What Apple has done here is they've captured their ecosystem users that likely would have never signed up with Spotify in the first place.

Spotify still isn't profitable. It's hard to make your whole business around something that larger companies (Apple, Google, Amazon) see as just a feature.

What does that say about who makes the better product if larger companies just see it as a feature?

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Post by rahoulb »

MarkMc wrote: post #147

Can someone explain why? Does Apple music have significantly more songs? Is it significantly cheaper? Or is it simply because it's the default music app on iPhone?

I prefer AM's iPhone UI and it has Siri and Apple Watch integration.

Plus Spotify's CarPlay app is essentially useless and dangerous to use when driving.

The main one is if you have lots of music already in iTunes, AM let's you access that alongside streaming stuff which I guess is a big advantage to a lot of people.

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Post by scarface74 »

lettergram wrote: post #39
freehunter wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have just one complaint, and it's the Siri integration. I was having a frustrating day and I like a playlist called something like "chill" or "just chill" or "relax" or something like that... so I ask Siri to play relaxing music. Can't find it. Siri, play chill music. Can't find it. Siri, play chill playlist. You don't have a playlist called chill. Siri play calming music. Now playing Daft Punk "I Feel It Coming".…

It's kind of ironic, Zune was the only Microsoft product I enjoyed and recommended without question. Yet, they killed the thing

What killed it was it was too little too late. It came out November 2006 - right before the iPhone. By the time they introduced an answer to the iPod Touch. The App Store has been out for a year.

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Post by abritinthebay »

sanjeetsuhag wrote: post #10

Honestly, I can't imagine switching to Apple Music. Speaking as a guy who owns an iPhone and a Mac. I love being able to smoothly control playback from any device. I love how seamless the experience is, I've only tried the Apple Music Trial when it first came out and I can't see any possible reason to switch to it now. Spotify is excellent for music discovery, and I love the top songs and everything. It's perfect. It…

It’s really interesting you say that to me because one of the reasons I loathed Spotify (aside from its awful UI) is that music discovery was so achingly bad.

IMO - Pandora > Apple Music > Spotify for discovery at least.

Then again I like that Apple Music throws me a curveball occasionally, it’s usually something I wouldn’t expect but quite like.

Which, to me, is the point. YMMV ofc.

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