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Early Facebook and Google Employees Form a Center for Humane Technology

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Re: Early Facebook and Google Employees Form a Center for Humane Technology

#11
> Ads warning teens about the dangers of technology, that's definitely going to work.

That's a good point of course, but on HN if you make your point as a snarky dismissal, we get lousy discussion. So please don't do that. There's no point worth making that can't be made thoughtfully.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16304411

Edit: since the comment was edited (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16304414) I'll detach this bit and mark it off-topic.

Re: Early Facebook and Google Employees Form a Center for Humane Technology

#12

Must feel nice to attack the gift horse. Such hypocrisy.

Snarky dismissals aren't allowed here. Regardless of how right you are, you end up damaging the container of this community by posting this way. Please don't do that.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Early Facebook and Google Employees Form a Center for Humane Technology

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post #3

Nice idea but I think this is only really going to change when either the incentives change (i.e. not ad-based) or there’s legislation/regulation of some kind. Until then, the BigCos will keep doing what they’re doing, because that’s how everything is set up.

People are fleeing facebook in droves. Read last week's release. Something's gotta change, it's more of a debate as to what or how.

Re: Early Facebook and Google Employees Form a Center for Humane Technology

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Looking at their website, they should really swap the landing page [0] with their "Problem" page [1] if they mean to communicate the strongest message they can about this issue. The landing page isn't as clear at what they're looking so solve.

I'd love for them to have a sort of "shop" to raise awareness. If I could just get my hands on some stickers, I'd be posting them around in public to point people to the /problem page.

[0] http://humanetech.com

[1] http://humanetech.com/problem

Re: Early Facebook and Google Employees Form a Center for Humane Technology

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post #8

Facebook and other social media platforms might be heading for the type of reckoning the fast food industry had in the late 90s and early 2000s. http://marko.la/facebook-is-mcdonalds/

McDonalds is still a viable business. When Facebook goes, it will evaporate like MySpace did. And not a moment too soon.

Re: Early Facebook and Google Employees Form a Center for Humane Technology

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post #8

Facebook and other social media platforms might be heading for the type of reckoning the fast food industry had in the late 90s and early 2000s. http://marko.la/facebook-is-mcdonalds/

Absolutely. When will governments (EU?) step the hell up and regulate this huge part of our lives?

Re: Early Facebook and Google Employees Form a Center for Humane Technology

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post #11

> Ads warning teens about the dangers of technology, that's definitely going to work. That's a good point of course, but on HN if you make your point as a snarky dismissal, we get lousy discussion. So please don't do that. There's no point worth making that can't be made thoughtfully. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16304411 Edit: since the comment was edited ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16304414 ) I'l…

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Re: Early Facebook and Google Employees Form a Center for Humane Technology

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> “The largest supercomputers in the world are inside of two companies — Google and Facebook — and where are we pointing them?” Mr. Harris said. “We’re pointing them at people’s brains, at children.”

I'm not sure if I should be concerned that the leader of this initiative is wrong about something so trivial.

https://www.top500.org/lists/2017/11/

Re: Early Facebook and Google Employees Form a Center for Humane Technology

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post #2

"It will be aimed at educating students, parents and teachers about the dangers of technology, including the depression that can come from heavy use of social media." So, treating the symptoms rather than the disease, and at any rate nothing to do with these companies' pervasive and invasive data practices. Maybe they still have positions in their former employers, I don't know, but following the money will have to b…

Please don't post reflexively dismissive comments to HN, especially when talking about other people's work, and extra-especially when it's the first comment to a thread. You might have a good point, but the genre itself drowns it out in a medium-is-the-message way. Discussions are sensitive to initial conditions and we're hoping that HN can be better than that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I think the pattern where the comments usually disagree with the article is healthy. It's a point-counterpoint argument structure, where the odd layers in the tree are arguing opposite to the even layers.

The article makes its case, the first comments make the case that was missing from the article, the replies make the case missing from them... and so on.

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