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Apples and PCs: Who innovates more, Apple or HP?

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Re: Apples and PCs: Who innovates more, Apple or HP?

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I think we need a better definition of innovation, how many releases of systems per period doesn't really cut it. Is a slightly faster clock cycle innovative?

You might be surprised to see how much innovation goes into getting a slightly faster clock cycle.

Re: Apples and PCs: Who innovates more, Apple or HP?

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I think we need a better definition of innovation, how many releases of systems per period doesn't really cut it. Is a slightly faster clock cycle innovative?

You might be surprised to see how much innovation goes into getting a slightly faster clock cycle.

But how much value is there to the user?

I think Apple's biggest innovation is right there - that the checkbox mentality of marketing computers was in its heyday when Computer Shopper was 1500 pages every month, and has long passed.

Now people value

- quality of the experience

- having everything work the same

- user-centric software

- standards-driven software

I have 3 macs, but I also have 2 windows machines, and I much prefer the mac experience. I like that I have unix, and a apt-like package manager, rather than some windows "innovation." I like that I can print PDFs out of the box, rather than having to deal with some shareware. I basically feel like windows has now managed to require more "sysadmin-ing" than unix, somehow.

I keep the PCs for games. And that's about it.

Re: Apples and PCs: Who innovates more, Apple or HP?

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post #4
post #2

I think we need a better definition of innovation, how many releases of systems per period doesn't really cut it. Is a slightly faster clock cycle innovative?

You might be surprised to see how much innovation goes into getting a slightly faster clock cycle.

This article is not comparing Intel with IBM and AMD though.

Re: Apples and PCs: Who innovates more, Apple or HP?

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I think we need a better definition of innovation, how many releases of systems per period doesn't really cut it. Is a slightly faster clock cycle innovative?

You might be surprised to see how much innovation goes into getting a slightly faster clock cycle.

I'm not surprised -- I used to read all of Hannibal's reviews -- but it is innovation on the chip maker's part. Apple and HP are doing little more than plugging it into a socket.

Re: Apples and PCs: Who innovates more, Apple or HP?

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I think we need a better definition of innovation, how many releases of systems per period doesn't really cut it. Is a slightly faster clock cycle innovative?

You might be surprised to see how much innovation goes into getting a slightly faster clock cycle.

Oh, no question. Does hp make chips though? Apple's got the A4, i'm sure they struggled getting that up to 1G. It's probably not fair to expand the scope beyond laptops though.

It seems like apple got intel to dust off the atom chip for the air, and they pushed that ssd stuff for a while. maybe HP did some of that stuff first.

* I'm kind of a fan boy. much less enamored of apple due to the ios programming language restrictions.

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