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Turning a Job Opening into a Dream Job for Top Talent

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Re: Turning a Job Opening into a Dream Job for Top Talent

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Post by chucksmash »

TamDenholm wrote: post #18

Senior developer salaries in my local area (Edinburgh, Scotland, UK) are £30k-£40k which is about $42k - $56k USD. On a £40k salary you pay roughly £9,500 in tax. Ive no idea what the tax rate is in America but the difference in salaries between the UK and the US is astounding.

The difference in pay between US and EU has always left me scratching my head. Is development universally treated as a cost center by business people there? Isn't there anybody trying to attract those top N% of engineers with big salaries so those engineers make them a fortune? A 50-80% haircut on salary is a big whammy for the same position in places with similar COL.

Re: Turning a Job Opening into a Dream Job for Top Talent

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Post by whatshisface »

humanrebar wrote: post #46
chx wrote: post #15

What this doesn't talk about enough is work impact -- mentioned yes but doesn't emphasize it. These are shitty years and it eats me I am working for an enterprise gardening their websites instead of literally making the world a better place. I mean, sure, it pays and challenging and whatnot but I miss NowPublic dearly because we made a god damn difference. We ran one of the biggest Katrina missing person boards. We w…

> These are shitty years and it eats me I am working for an enterprise gardening their websites instead of literally making the world a better place. It's a peculiar quirk of the tech industry that "changing the world through X" is a reasonable expectation. Bus drivers don't wonder how they can make a difference through bus driving. They do their shifts and then go volunteer at the hospital, food bank, homeless shelt…

People want to climb Maslow's hierarchy in every area of their lives. If bus drivers had better pay and job security (so much so that they hit the region of diminishing returns), maybe we'd see more talk from drivers about wishing they were driving especially important buses.

Re: Turning a Job Opening into a Dream Job for Top Talent

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Post by squid_ca »

kod wrote: post #68
humanrebar wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Having had twins in the last year it's been vital. Employers that actually want workplace diversity should really consider how many lifestyles their work culture can accommodate. Some people adopt lots of kids and need more room. Some people love their families and won't move more than a few hours from them. Nearly everybody needs flexible work arrangements from time to time: health problems, ailing family members,…

The problem is that not all humans are decent. The more of them you hire, the more likely one of them is the asshole who will take advantage of flexibility and ruin it for the rest.

That's true, but I don't think the solution is to treat all humans like they're assholes.

Re: Turning a Job Opening into a Dream Job for Top Talent

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Post by rhapsodic »

whatshisface wrote: post #82
humanrebar wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These are shitty years and it eats me I am working for an enterprise gardening their websites instead of literally making the world a better place. It's a peculiar quirk of the tech industry that "changing the world through X" is a reasonable expectation. Bus drivers don't wonder how they can make a difference through bus driving. They do their shifts and then go volunteer at the hospital, food bank, homeless shelt…

People want to climb Maslow's hierarchy in every area of their lives. If bus drivers had better pay and job security (so much so that they hit the region of diminishing returns), maybe we'd see more talk from drivers about wishing they were driving especially important buses.

> If bus drivers had better pay and job security...

City bus drivers are often public employees represented by a powerful union. Hence their pay and job security are often pretty good by most peoples' standards.

Re: Turning a Job Opening into a Dream Job for Top Talent

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Post by gingerlime »

The top thing on the StackOverflow survey was vacation time, but the article hardly touched on it.

We have a 45 days holidays policy for all full time employees. Mind you, this includes public holidays, because we're also 100% remote and it's more fair for everyone if we don't align public holidays to one spot. This also means that if you prefer working over Christmas, and then take time off another time - you can. We also heavily encourage everyone to take their holidays, and you can only transfer up to 5 days from one year to the next, so people use it.

Re: Turning a Job Opening into a Dream Job for Top Talent

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Post by shoover »

madamelic wrote: post #19

Are people really making these salaries? I mean like mid-level, not god-tier type people. I don't know if I am stupid or just don't say the right things but are there really mid-level devs not at huge companies making $160k a year? I mostly hang out at startups and it is normally around like 130k for a senior dev.

Good question. Indianapolis seems to have a thriving tech community, but the Glassdoor data for senior software engineer average base pay comes in a full 30k under your startup number: $99k (based on 1081 anonymous submissions). LinkedIn shows median $100k.

Re: Turning a Job Opening into a Dream Job for Top Talent

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Post by Tehchops »

user5994461 wrote: post #52

That awkward time when you finish reading the article and you realize with the ad at the last paragraph that it was all just advertising for the author's service.

I mean, it's at least reasonably good content, versus him spamming backlinks into random Disqus feeds.

Re: Turning a Job Opening into a Dream Job for Top Talent

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Post by nikanj »

gingerlime wrote: post #85

The top thing on the StackOverflow survey was vacation time, but the article hardly touched on it. We have a 45 days holidays policy for all full time employees. Mind you, this includes public holidays, because we're also 100% remote and it's more fair for everyone if we don't align public holidays to one spot. This also means that if you prefer working over Christmas, and then take time off another time - you can. W…

Who’s “we”?

Re: Turning a Job Opening into a Dream Job for Top Talent

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Post by ageofwant »

kod wrote: post #68
humanrebar wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Having had twins in the last year it's been vital. Employers that actually want workplace diversity should really consider how many lifestyles their work culture can accommodate. Some people adopt lots of kids and need more room. Some people love their families and won't move more than a few hours from them. Nearly everybody needs flexible work arrangements from time to time: health problems, ailing family members,…

The problem is that not all humans are decent. The more of them you hire, the more likely one of them is the asshole who will take advantage of flexibility and ruin it for the rest.

The 'one bad apple' thing never cut it for me. If you are bad apple's manager, you have measurable metrics on her performance, and you act based on that, no more no less. This has no bearing on any of the other apples.

Re: Turning a Job Opening into a Dream Job for Top Talent

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Post by mathattack »

I find the most important thing is the “deal” with the manager. “Here is what I can give you, Here is what I want in return.”

Some people want promotability. Some want remote work. Some want new technical challenges. Some flexibility. A manager can’t give everything to everyone but they can say, “I can give you all the flexibility you need as long as the servers never go down” or “I can work to promote you in a year if you hit every deadline and do three or four side projects”

That conversation is more important than any perk.

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