Google’s Fuchsia OS on the Pixelbook

Post by willtim » Sat, Feb 03, 2018, 10:19 AM UTC

fooker wrote: post #89

willtim wrote: post #87

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It's all written in C++, so from a security and reliability perspective, I'm sketical it's going to offer much improvement over Linux. I don't see any evidence yet of "new technology". I'm happy to be proven wrong.

I can use your logic to prove that there is no evidence of new technology in the Falcon 9 rocket. After all, it is developed with very similar tools compared to every other rocket in existence.

Post by willtim » Sat, Feb 03, 2018, 10:31 AM UTC

mehrdadn wrote: post #93

willtim wrote: post #91

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It's not news to anyone that C/C++ puts the burden of security and safety onto the programmer. And it's getting harder all the time, see for example Spectre mitigation. C was designed alongside Unix in the 70's, a very different era. It is time for a next generation OS, but it needs to be built using next generation tooling.

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Post by solarkraft » Sat, Feb 03, 2018, 10:36 AM UTC

willtim wrote: post #87

groby_b wrote: post #24

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As somebody who read that famous first email and shared it around her lab: We were all tremendously excited, and spent days discussing it. This is the same thing - it's exciting . It's trying to do things many of us have thought of, but never worked on. It's new technology. It's something that, in our hearts, we want to succeed just because the alternatives are all grungy and dusty and carry the compatibility fixes o…

It's all written in C++, so from a security and reliability perspective, I'm sketical it's going to offer much improvement over Linux. I don't see any evidence yet of "new technology". I'm happy to be proven wrong.

Post by solarkraft » Sat, Feb 03, 2018, 10:40 AM UTC

zitterbewegung wrote: post #10

Jesus_Jones wrote: post #2

There's no point to these early Fuschia review attempts. I don't see how it demonstrates anything. It's like looking at the famous first email from Linus Torvald and figuring out what the os would be in the end. So it boots, it has windows, but not apps, and prints some things to the screen. It tells us nothing about real intentions, future capabilities, etc.

Its sort of a "review" of an early preview. I think it demonstrates a lot especially what Fuchsia is and what it is capable of. The other point would be that Google gets free advertisements of their new OS.

Post by solarkraft » Sat, Feb 03, 2018, 10:53 AM UTC

innagadadavida wrote: post #11

Jesus_Jones wrote: post #2

There's no point to these early Fuschia review attempts. I don't see how it demonstrates anything. It's like looking at the famous first email from Linus Torvald and figuring out what the os would be in the end. So it boots, it has windows, but not apps, and prints some things to the screen. It tells us nothing about real intentions, future capabilities, etc.

I'm hoping it will be noticed by Linus and other Linux developers and help them address some of the shortcomings that Fuchsia aims to fix. It seems like this is how Google is exerting pressure on Linux to get what it wants...