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Most people are on mobile nowadays so IP is becoming increasingly worthless.
If only it was true... quite the opposite is the case at least in US: https://medium.com/@philipn/want-to-see-something-crazy-open...
Firefox 59 to strip path information from referrer values for 3rd parties
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Re: Firefox 59 to strip path information from referrer values for 3rd parties
#202This one of the reasons I tend to flip completely whenever I see healthcare providers and their suppliers run google analytics tags inside their logged in areas (yes, this really happens). Besides the questionable value of having such tracking inside the logged in areas (it's healthcare, they are not going to worry about their conversion rates) such information should simply never leave the premises. Better still if…
> it's healthcare, they are not going to worry about their conversion rates Monitoring conversion rates can be used to find out whether people are actually able to use your web service. The goal of a “conversion” doesn't have to be a sale. But I agree that if you're going to do this sort of tracking, it definitely needs to be private. I hope there's a court case soon where the court rules that sending a whole load of…
Coming to a courtroom somewhere in Europe in 2019.
Re: Firefox 59 to strip path information from referrer values for 3rd parties
#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
Disclaimer: I'm the Firefox engineer who wrote the patch and the post. We did a user research study measuring website breakage under various privacy protections: https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2018/01/26/improving-privacy-w... tl;dr - strict-origin-when-cross-origin was one of the protections with the lowest amount of breakage. Entering Private Browsing is a clear, strong signal that the user wants more privacy, so we…
Why don't websites just remove ad code from pages they don't want ads to appear on, instead of telling the ad server to not display it on such pages by using the referrer information? Seems like a convoluted way to solve the problem.
Re: Firefox 59 to strip path information from referrer values for 3rd parties
#204As someone that digs in this data for a living, personally strongly believe this should be on by default for all browsing. The example they give is an insanely bad design for healthcare.gov and I would absolutely not want to find that type of data in my analytics telemetry. It is very useful to know where your traffic is coming from, but that’s usually viewed at a higher level than the querystring params being shown.…
As a user I don't want you to know that information. I wish there was a way to click on links with the referer field removed entirely from the request(maybe via context menu)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/smart-referer...
Re: Firefox 59 to strip path information from referrer values for 3rd parties
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#207I managed to disable cookies by default using cookie whitelist, and I counted many website that broke down.
I applaud firefox for daring to break website for the sake of privacy, but I'm waiting for websites to react.
Firefox should be even more strict regarding privacy: ask the user if he want to set a cookie, never save history etc.
I'm using the extension that compartmentalize website usage on firefox, and this should be made default.
Re: Firefox 59 to strip path information from referrer values for 3rd parties
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Sites should be penalized for giving preference to one kind of link over another. Why should Google have even more of an upper hand than they already have? To me this is a super good illustration of why we probably should get rid of the 'Referer' (sic) header altogether.
Agreed, but the short-term loser of this change is the non-technical customer who's workflow is suddenly broken, and only in Firefox, and only in version 59. Apparently only in Private Mode though which makes my use case probably less common. Thing is, do you remember the uproar about addons being broken in Firefox 57? It was for good (security) reasons but many non-technical users don't understand or respect the pro…
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Yes it's great from a marketer's point of view. From a consumer's point of view, I don't want you to know where I came from. I don't really care if it's useful to you. It's the difference between pleasing marketers vs pleasing users. Firefox chose wisely
Honestly, I don't think path information is all that useful for marketers.
Re: Firefox 59 to strip path information from referrer values for 3rd parties
#210The weird thing about browsers that tries to protect your privacy is how many website will get broken because of this. I managed to disable cookies by default using cookie whitelist, and I counted many website that broke down. I applaud firefox for daring to break website for the sake of privacy, but I'm waiting for websites to react. Firefox should be even more strict regarding privacy: ask the user if he want to se…