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More evidence of rent declines in Portland

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Re: More evidence of rent declines in Portland

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If everyone acts that way that'll be a good way to end up like California.

No, because without Prop 13 a retired teacher isn’t going to want her house to be worth $5 million if she plans on continuing to live there.

That mindset was what led to prop 13. When did altruism become such a dirty word? When did selfish, short term thinking become such the norm? That isn't the kind of thinking that built the stuff we take for granted.

Re: More evidence of rent declines in Portland

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I think controversy is not that building more has no effect on rent prices - of course more supply drives prices down. It is more about whether we want to live in over-populated ant-farms or want to pay premium for less dense living.

"Over-populated ant farms" is a pretty strong phrase, and is usually more the result of bad policy than density in and of itself. San Francisco has about 6000 people/square km, and feels crowded. Paris has about 20,000 people/square km, and to me feels less crowded.

In Paris, they've taken the general development policy of building everything up to 6-8 stories, with commercial on the ground floor and residential above. Strikes me as a good way to pack in a lot of people without things feeling too crowded.

Re: More evidence of rent declines in Portland

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Portland is terrible. The homelessness is depressingly tangible, the streets are either full of crap or protestors, everybody is too white, and the weather is unpleasantly unremarkable.

I used to work for a big multinational with a Portland office and a Seattle office; the Seattle office is far nicer.

Re: More evidence of rent declines in Portland

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Portland is terrible. The homelessness is depressingly tangible, the streets are either full of crap or protestors, everybody is too white, and the weather is unpleasantly unremarkable. I used to work for a big multinational with a Portland office and a Seattle office; the Seattle office is far nicer.

Portland is amazing. The food is great, the beer is world-class (and all sorts of weird little breweries can be found everywhere), the coffee is top notch and the selection of coffee shops is amazing, Oregonians are among the nicest people I've encountered in the United States, awesome Springs and Summers, lots of amazing nature nearby, no sales taxes, lots of art, lots of music, lots of cool weird music venues, people are incredibly environmentally conscious. All in all a great little city in my estimation.

Re: More evidence of rent declines in Portland

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Portland is terrible. The homelessness is depressingly tangible, the streets are either full of crap or protestors, everybody is too white, and the weather is unpleasantly unremarkable. I used to work for a big multinational with a Portland office and a Seattle office; the Seattle office is far nicer.

> too white

Many non-white people live in Portland. Educate yourself.

Re: More evidence of rent declines in Portland

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If everyone acts that way that'll be a good way to end up like California.

No, because without Prop 13 a retired teacher isn’t going to want her house to be worth $5 million if she plans on continuing to live there.

And where are contemporary teachers supposed to live? The San Francisco school district is building what amount to dorms for teachers because the housing market is so distorted.

Re: More evidence of rent declines in Portland

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Portland is terrible. The homelessness is depressingly tangible, the streets are either full of crap or protestors, everybody is too white, and the weather is unpleasantly unremarkable. I used to work for a big multinational with a Portland office and a Seattle office; the Seattle office is far nicer.

> too white

Really? How is this comment okay here?

Re: More evidence of rent declines in Portland

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Portland is terrible. The homelessness is depressingly tangible, the streets are either full of crap or protestors, everybody is too white, and the weather is unpleasantly unremarkable. I used to work for a big multinational with a Portland office and a Seattle office; the Seattle office is far nicer.

Portland is amazing. The food is great, the beer is world-class (and all sorts of weird little breweries can be found everywhere), the coffee is top notch and the selection of coffee shops is amazing, Oregonians are among the nicest people I've encountered in the United States, awesome Springs and Summers, lots of amazing nature nearby, no sales taxes, lots of art, lots of music, lots of cool weird music venues, peop…

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Re: More evidence of rent declines in Portland

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Portland is terrible. The homelessness is depressingly tangible, the streets are either full of crap or protestors, everybody is too white, and the weather is unpleasantly unremarkable. I used to work for a big multinational with a Portland office and a Seattle office; the Seattle office is far nicer.

> too white Many non-white people live in Portland. Educate yourself.

In 2014 Portland was the whitest city with over 400k population https://priceonomics.com/how-diverse-is-your-city/
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