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Things are going so well we’re doing a hiring freeze

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Re: Things are going so well we’re doing a hiring freeze

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Getting into Norway doesn't seem too hard - but I'm open to be told why I'm wrong. Here is what I found: "Broadly speaking, the award of a residence permit depends on two things: your country of citizenship and your ability to financially sustain yourself and any dependents. This generally means you need a job offer, or you must prove financial sustainability if you are coming to Norway to study or for some other rea…

Interesting. I just recall reading an article that went on about how your best chance of getting in is to marry in, which is unlikely for myself as I'm happily married already! There was never anything specific about Norway (as compared to the other Scandinavian countries that generally top happiness indexes and such) just that the article said that I _couldn't_ live there.

Stackoverflow careers often list a number of jobs close to where I work in Oslo.

It seems to me if one gets a real job offer then there is a good chance to get a work permit.

Re: Things are going so well we’re doing a hiring freeze

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Because, to be perfectly honest, most of us don't want to start our own companies. I know for me, personally, that there's a whole lot of extra stuff that comes with running a company, stuff that I have absolutely zero interest in doing, that I would be required to do if I wanted my company to succeed. Second, I also don't really have any good ideas for what the company would do.

Surely if you had a good idea for a company, the currently zero interest stuff would suddenly become a bit more interesting. Then it would seem that this is more about the lack of any good ideas than the actual starting of a company.

If I have a good idea, it will be for a technical solution to someone's problem. I'll get excited about building that solution...but running the company and all the crap that it involves sounds like hell to me. A necessary evil. The "zero interest stuff" suddenly turns into the "deeply dreaded stuff".

Re: Things are going so well we’re doing a hiring freeze

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It's insane how making a profit seems to considered "uncool" in the business world. Basecamp and particularly Jason Fried's writings (I realize this is particular article is by DHH) are super inspirational. I wish that building a solid, profitable business as opposed to being so focused on growth and finding more investors was more of the norm. I want to work at Basecamp even more now, haha.

shrug VCs seem to prefer 1 hypergrowth startup and 20 failures in their portfolio to 17 solid, growing, profitable startups without hypergrowth and 4 failures.

It seems they have calculated that they make so much money from having that 1 hypergrowth startup in their portfolio that it blows away a dozen total failures or even a dozen moderately successful companies.

Tricky part is that companies that have the potential for hypergrowth look awfully similar to terrible ideas that will clearly crash and burn.

Re: Things are going so well we’re doing a hiring freeze

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Congratulations. You've figured out how to make me want to apply to your company! In the same way that I will never stop wanting to move to Norway, since they don't want me, I will now forever desire to work for Basecamp... I am so easily manipulated.

Getting into Norway doesn't seem too hard - but I'm open to be told why I'm wrong. Here is what I found: "Broadly speaking, the award of a residence permit depends on two things: your country of citizenship and your ability to financially sustain yourself and any dependents. This generally means you need a job offer, or you must prove financial sustainability if you are coming to Norway to study or for some other rea…

>your country of citizenship and your ability to financially sustain yourself and any dependents. This generally means you need a job offer, or you must prove financial sustainability if you are coming to Norway to study or for some other reason.

By American standards Norwegians are all racist assholes.

Re: Things are going so well we’re doing a hiring freeze

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Just a question, I don't use Basecamp or similar products-- does Basecamp have competitors who are great at product and execution and who are pouring more resources and time and focus (like, where the team doesn't split their time between their product and a major OSS project like ROR) into their offerings? Is there no such competitor that has a better product that poses a threat to Basecamp's retention of users?

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Why join? Start your own, run it like you want it to be run, and not only will you have the reward of working at a healthy place, you'll also have the reward of enabling dozens of employees to live fulfilling lives. I like to think that Jason Fried/DHH went to the bother of writing all these books and blog posts because they legitimately want to see more businesses run like theirs in the world.

>Why join? Start your own, run it like you want it to be run Man, seriously, not everyone can, or even should , run a company. I like to write code, I don't like to run a business. That is such a silly, extremely silly thing to suggest. Work at Google? Why? Start your own Google! For realz?

Yes, suggesting starting a company on a discussion board dedicated to startups and entrepreneurship is definitely an "extremely silly idea".

Re: Things are going so well we’re doing a hiring freeze

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Why join? Start your own, run it like you want it to be run, and not only will you have the reward of working at a healthy place, you'll also have the reward of enabling dozens of employees to live fulfilling lives. I like to think that Jason Fried/DHH went to the bother of writing all these books and blog posts because they legitimately want to see more businesses run like theirs in the world.

Because, to be perfectly honest, most of us don't want to start our own companies. I know for me, personally, that there's a whole lot of extra stuff that comes with running a company, stuff that I have absolutely zero interest in doing, that I would be required to do if I wanted my company to succeed. Second, I also don't really have any good ideas for what the company would do.

Life will always involve doing shit that you don't want to do.

As an employee for a larger company, if your manager tells you to do crap you don't want to do, well you generally have two choices: do it, or quit.

If you're running your own thing, you suddenly have a few more choices: you can reassess whether that thing needs to be done in the first place. You can suck it up and do it yourself, but perhaps you're a little more motivated than if it were your boss at $megacorp telling you to do it because you directly understand why it needs to be done. You could also delegate it to one of your employees, or to a contractor. Etc.

I've been in the industry for about 10 years - at tiny startups, growing startups, mid sized agencies, large companies - and I'm realizing more and more that the odds of running your own thing seem more favorable than the odds of finding the perfect team with a delightful manager where you will only ever work on the things you want to work on, in the environment you want (maybe you want every other wednesday off to hang out with your kid. maybe you don't want meetings after lunch because that's when you're the most productive. etc.)

Of course, that equation is different for everyone - depending on your priorities and interests, you might be better off just working for $megacorp, taking the good with the bad.

But I find it a little mind blowing that my comment is so controversial (currently at -1, with only dismissive replies) on a board dedicated to entrepreneurship.

I will also add (and I'm not saying anything new here, just parroting what 'patio11 and others have said over and over over the years) that most programmers are better equipped than they think they are when it comes to generating meaningful value that can be turned into, at the very least, a living where they get to call the shots.

Re: Things are going so well we’re doing a hiring freeze

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Controversial opinion incoming, but I've found their writings less valuable over time and see them more as opinions with an elitist tone. This is coming from someone who owns a copy of Rework and might just go over it again for it's unique quality of life advice.

Lately I've really noticed that you don't just get advice anymore, you also get a little bit of commentary on how the rest of the tech industry is dumb or insane or both because those fools are doing it the old way and we're doing it our own progressive and enlightened way that we figured out on our own after we sat down, put on our critical thinking caps, and tried something different, and lo and behold it worked.

This latest exercise stands out as particularly offensive because there really isn't any advice or wisdom worth sharing. They're just telling us that Basecamp had the best year ever and they don't feel like improving on it so they're not hiring at the moment. Correction, it's actually a hiring freeze. Same thing, except the phrase "hiring freeze" is normally used in the context of something bad. They're going to use it in a different context to, you know, get more claps on Medium. On top of all this they felt the need to do a little compare and contrast between what they're doing vs what the rest of those unenlightened fools in the tech industry are doing, i.e. reinvest profits into new ways to grow.

Whatever. There are plenty of businesses that are happy with where they're at and settle-in, Basecamp is different because they're a tech company and they feel the need to blog about it. As for those companies that are growing, well, I think it's perfectly fine to keep growing, just don't turn your company into the equivalent of foie gras.

It's just disappointing. I looked up to them, still kinda do, but this is just marketing spin designed to make something boring and innocuous look radical.

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