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Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ahh the App Store. It's just like the Play Store, except no viruses, far fewer scam apps, and there's a legitimate and thriving market for paid apps.

But they remove any apps that might show boobs?

> But they remove any apps that might show boobs?

We are not much better, sadly. https://floens.github.io/Clover/gp_unavailable.txt

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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Ahh the app store. It's just like the internet, except the websites are mini apps, and a mega corporation gets to control whats on it. And takes 30% of everything you make. Brilliant.

I'm not sure why anyone argues against Apple's 30% cut like this. It's app developers who make the determination whether the cost is worth the benefit.

As you point out, there are alternatives. Why do you think developers have massively and overwhelmingly opted-in?

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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"Telegram has risen in popularity thanks to its focus on advanced security features and the ability to hold secret conversations with end-to-end encryption. ... Telegram was forced to create a team of moderators in Indonesia to remove “terrorist-related content” after the Indonesian government threatened to ban the messaging app."

Wait, how does that work?

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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post #13

" Telegram has risen in popularity thanks to its focus on advanced security features and the ability to hold secret conversations with end-to-end encryption. ... Telegram was forced to create a team of moderators in Indonesia to remove “terrorist-related content” after the Indonesian government threatened to ban the messaging app. " Wait, how does that work?

The secure chats are opt in. The normal mode shares everything with the server.

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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post #2

Ahh the app store. It's just like the internet, except the websites are mini apps, and a mega corporation gets to control whats on it. And takes 30% of everything you make. Brilliant.

And how much does it cost to build and maintain your own domain, storage, delivery/updates infrastructure and billing system? Oh, and how about marketing for your app?

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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> but will not pay for web sites. Subscriptions to web-based services don't count as paying for web sites?

How many people would you say subscribe to something they pay for online? For example news? The pool of subscribers for magazines and news is an ever shrinking pie. I know of no one in the last three jobs that maintains a subscription that’s under under age 40.

Netflix (and other similar platforms), Amazon Prime, Twitch subscriptions.

Those are only 3 examples a ton of people pay for.

If you provide a good service, you will get subscribers. News have been available for free for decades thanks to OTA TV broadcasts. That's why people don't pay for it.

Niche journalism needs to have subscriptions since they can have way less views and people looking for news on that niche are ready to pay.

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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post #13

" Telegram has risen in popularity thanks to its focus on advanced security features and the ability to hold secret conversations with end-to-end encryption. ... Telegram was forced to create a team of moderators in Indonesia to remove “terrorist-related content” after the Indonesian government threatened to ban the messaging app. " Wait, how does that work?

The secure chats are opt in. The normal mode shares everything with the server.

This is probably mostly about the public channels, not regular group chats.

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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Secure communication is not possible on iOS because Apple does not permit it.

This is an accurate statement. Apple demands that Telegram be able to monitor and block "inappropriate" content. Therefor, secure communication is impossible on iOS.

Apple has further demanded that developers of communications services spy on their users by "monitoring" them. Tell me again how Apple supposedly respects privacy?

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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post #2

Ahh the app store. It's just like the internet, except the websites are mini apps, and a mega corporation gets to control whats on it. And takes 30% of everything you make. Brilliant.

And how much does it cost to build and maintain your own domain, storage, delivery/updates infrastructure and billing system? Oh, and how about marketing for your app?

The app stores market your app for you? Ha!

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The secure chats are opt in. The normal mode shares everything with the server.

This is probably mostly about the public channels, not regular group chats.

Correct. Moderators only intervene in public groups and channels, chats are exempt and secret chats are impossible to be moderated.
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