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Re: Facebook User Growth, Time Spent Fall on News Feed Changes

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Post by burlesona »

narrator wrote: post #88

I think with all the high profile hyperpoliticization of who and what gets into the Facebook feed of the average person, the idea that Facebook is a private space where friends create their own private worlds together has been destroyed. Now it's just another public space like Twitter and that essentially makes people not want to post personal stuff on it. This has also led to the opening in the market that Snapchat…

Yes, like Twitter, but the late night infomercials version of Twitter where some guy is trying to sell you miracle tanning cream.

Re: Facebook User Growth, Time Spent Fall on News Feed Changes

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Post by jimmies »

adventured wrote: post #57
tanilama wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is interesting. Too much noise , too much distraction?

It's a cesspool, imo. My Facebook is overwhelmed by extremely ugly political obnoxiousness these days, which makes it almost worthless (I'd have to hide 3/4 of the conversations/posts by friends). Between that and the junk content and general corporate spam, maybe 3-5% of what I've seen on FB in the last year has been legitimately valuable social content. The majority of people I know hate Facebook as a product now.…

I've been thinking about how much I hate Facebook as a product. I think the idea might not be wrong and centralization of trust might not be a horrible idea. Implementation is important. There just needs a GNU or Wikipedia of Facebook to exist. A place that has a great code of conduct and not-for-profit agenda.

Re: Facebook User Growth, Time Spent Fall on News Feed Changes

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Post by toomanybeersies »

Puer wrote: post #99

For people using uBlock Origin who want to hide all of the noise on their Facebook and truly see what their friends are posting, here are some useful filters: facebook.com##div._3ccb:has-text(/ commented on this./) facebook.com##div._3ccb:has-text(/ replied to a /) facebook.com##div._3ccb:has-text(/ liked this post from /) facebook.com##div._3ccb:has-text(/ liked this./) facebook.com##div._3ccb:has-text(/ commented o…

Thanks, I might use some of those to tweak my newsfeed.

Re: Facebook User Growth, Time Spent Fall on News Feed Changes

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Post by brain5ide »

matte_black wrote: post #109
rogy wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personal opinion that this is all again unintentionally there own doing. They drove people to stop posting personal content by making personal content so rare to come by (with ads, news,pages,sponsored posts..) that it was percieved that people don’t post those kind of things anymore. Going to be very tough to get people back into that mindset.

There is no need to go back to that mindset. The goal is to transition everyone to a new, different mindset. This is how a business evolves.

You mean imitates progress?

Re: Facebook User Growth, Time Spent Fall on News Feed Changes

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Post by ewjordan »

grogenaut wrote: post #155
nojvek wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess A/B testing will tell you if the horse will become faster if you change from iron shoes to carbon fiber ones. A/B testing won’t ever get you a Tesla from a horse.

Says every product person I've ever worked with who didn't want to actually be data driven.

I understand the fear, though - when you're data driven, you can actually numerically measure the contribution of every feature that's tested, and in a lot of cases figure out the exact impact on revenue. In a culture where everything is tested, it's a very small step from there to stack ranking your product designers based mostly on how the features they designed did.

I'm not necessarily against that as a valid way to measure job performance if it's done intelligently (for one, realizing that there's a lot of blind luck and variance, and it takes time to smooth out) - I mean, if you're in sales and you're not booking any sales, you don't get to hide from that. But it's also really easy to get ranking and evaluation schemes wrong, so I understand why people would be nervous about it and prefer soft-skill-based evaluations instead.

Re: Facebook User Growth, Time Spent Fall on News Feed Changes

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Post by oska »

elgenie wrote: post #156
ComputerGuru wrote: post #78

I didn’t see anyone else mention this, but to me it is a problem of facebook’s own making. They drove personal content off the site when they pushed videos and pictures by “viral marketing” firms onto it. They replaced groups (inherently personal) with pages, then scrambled to try and bring groups back years later. They turned the wall to spam from various garbage apps that were given permission to crap all over it b…

So you think "the problem" is all the things that Facebook started doing when there were 10 million registered users that grew it to 1.4 billion daily actives? A problem that can be rectified by Facebook, literally 11 years after some of the things you talk about, tweaking news feed weights towards personal posts from friends and other changes to allow users to spend time on the site more efficiently is not a serious…

> Disclosure: I worked there for 8.5 years, including writing Facebook Chat.

In my book this is equivalent to saying you worked for Philip Morris for 8.5 years and worked on campaigns to bring in new smokers.

Re: Facebook User Growth, Time Spent Fall on News Feed Changes

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Post by jimmies »

Terr_ wrote: post #133
analogic wrote: post #62

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basically. guess thats what the whole g+ circles thing was, and im sure fb can do too now, but if i have to spend basically any effort thinking about who's going to see it I'm just not gonna post. (or worry about who won't see it because of the black-box algorithm) I'm prob not the target market anyway, as im paranoid and social media and human interaction in general is strange and frightening to me, but that's a maj…

IMO Google+ circles were a step in the right direction, but Google shot themselves in the foot with their "one real-name account to rule them all" bullshit. People don't just want to separate their "lists of other people", people also act a different role in different contexts. In other words, humans want to maintain different identities too. That doesn't always mean pseudonyms, but the single human behind "Bob from…

When Google forced the real name bullshit on Youtube and Places reviews, I knew I had it enough. I just wanted to leave a stupid, lighthearted comment on a video talking about a socially taboo topic, and I can't. I just wanted to leave an honest negative review on a business that fucked me over, and I can't.

biker139 is different than John M Businessman. I don't want people reading that review to know I'm John.

Re: Facebook User Growth, Time Spent Fall on News Feed Changes

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Post by elgenie »

oska wrote: post #186
elgenie wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you think "the problem" is all the things that Facebook started doing when there were 10 million registered users that grew it to 1.4 billion daily actives? A problem that can be rectified by Facebook, literally 11 years after some of the things you talk about, tweaking news feed weights towards personal posts from friends and other changes to allow users to spend time on the site more efficiently is not a serious…

> Disclosure: I worked there for 8.5 years, including writing Facebook Chat. In my book this is equivalent to saying you worked for Philip Morris for 8.5 years and worked on campaigns to bring in new smokers.

Your book is poorly written: even accepting your premise, I didn’t work on the growth team.

Re: Facebook User Growth, Time Spent Fall on News Feed Changes

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Post by ghostcluster »

jokermatt999 wrote: post #128

Am I the only one who views Facebook by Most Recent? They don't make it easy, and I don't think you can default to it, but I just point all my bookmarks to https://www.facebook.com/?sk=h_chr Still though, Facebook could be so much better. The problem is that a profit-driven social media site is always going to have different goals than its users. Free ones seem to never gain traction. Currently, most of my friend gro…

Even that link only shows a pruned, algorithmically decided subset of the most recent posts of your total friends list.

Re: Facebook User Growth, Time Spent Fall on News Feed Changes

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Post by intelhearts »

elgenie wrote: post #156
ComputerGuru wrote: post #78

I didn’t see anyone else mention this, but to me it is a problem of facebook’s own making. They drove personal content off the site when they pushed videos and pictures by “viral marketing” firms onto it. They replaced groups (inherently personal) with pages, then scrambled to try and bring groups back years later. They turned the wall to spam from various garbage apps that were given permission to crap all over it b…

So you think "the problem" is all the things that Facebook started doing when there were 10 million registered users that grew it to 1.4 billion daily actives? A problem that can be rectified by Facebook, literally 11 years after some of the things you talk about, tweaking news feed weights towards personal posts from friends and other changes to allow users to spend time on the site more efficiently is not a serious…

I'm surprised so many people use that website
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