Announcing TypeScript 2.7
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Announcing TypeScript 2.7
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Re: Announcing TypeScript 2.7
#2Class property initialization was always a glaring blind spot in Typescript, I'm glad to see that strict mode verifies it now.
Thanks to the Typescript team for making Javascript much more tolerable :)
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#3On the one hand I am glad they are continuing to enhance TypeScript. On the other hand I am concerned that TypeScript is becoming a very bloated language. If you have seen the latest edition of Stroustrup’s C++ Programming Language book you know what a bloated language looks like. Is that where TypeScript is headed?
Programming languages are not like your Word or Excel where more features is better. Some programming language designers take pride in how small the language is, for example Kernighan and Ritchie. I worry that as long as Microsoft has Program Managers and Development Leads assigned to TypeScript and their job performance is measured by the number of features they add, TypeScript is going to get more and more bloated with obscure features.
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#4I wonder if there was ever a discussion that definite assignment assertions should have a strict mode flag to disallow. They seem like something that can be abused to escape the static type system.
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#5I wonder if there was ever a discussion that definite assignment assertions should have a strict mode flag to disallow. They seem like something that can be abused to escape the static type system.
Much like casts and nonnull assertions. The general consensus is that you can enable a tslint rule to categorically forbid them.
Re: Announcing TypeScript 2.7
#6On the one hand I am glad they are continuing to enhance TypeScript. On the other hand I am concerned that TypeScript is becoming a very bloated language. If you have seen the latest edition of Stroustrup’s C++ Programming Language book you know what a bloated language looks like. Is that where TypeScript is headed? Programming languages are not like your Word or Excel where more features is better. Some programming…
In that regard C11 is also much more than K&R C, and C20 is on the horizon.
Re: Announcing TypeScript 2.7
#7On the one hand I am glad they are continuing to enhance TypeScript. On the other hand I am concerned that TypeScript is becoming a very bloated language. If you have seen the latest edition of Stroustrup’s C++ Programming Language book you know what a bloated language looks like. Is that where TypeScript is headed? Programming languages are not like your Word or Excel where more features is better. Some programming…
JS is a big language. It continues to grow without removing features. One codebase can be very functional, another dynamically typed C++ from 2004, another pythonic. As long as they support the entire language while adding static typing (not an easy feat), it's going to grow. In that sense it is very much like C++, though it's still not in the same league of complexity of C++.
If you want a small language, look elsewhere. I had fun with Bucklescript over the weekend, and it is amazing how expressive it is. The syntax sucks in places [| Reason is a small upgrade |], but that's probably where you want to look. Maybe Elm if you are fanatic about it.
Re: Announcing TypeScript 2.7
#8On the one hand I am glad they are continuing to enhance TypeScript. On the other hand I am concerned that TypeScript is becoming a very bloated language. If you have seen the latest edition of Stroustrup’s C++ Programming Language book you know what a bloated language looks like. Is that where TypeScript is headed? Programming languages are not like your Word or Excel where more features is better. Some programming…
> On the other hand I am concerned that TypeScript is becoming a very bloated language
I came to say exactly this. Are there actually people out there asking for all of these nuanced features?
I've been excited about TS for a while and used it for several side projects with great success...but with each new release and new set of "features" my excitement wanes a bit.
Re: Announcing TypeScript 2.7
#9On the one hand I am glad they are continuing to enhance TypeScript. On the other hand I am concerned that TypeScript is becoming a very bloated language. If you have seen the latest edition of Stroustrup’s C++ Programming Language book you know what a bloated language looks like. Is that where TypeScript is headed? Programming languages are not like your Word or Excel where more features is better. Some programming…
TypeScript itself doesn't really add new language features; it just tracks the ECMAScript spec and considers proposed features for implementation after they hit stage 3.
The enhancements coming out in new TypeScript releases are largely related to typing expressiveness / type inference precision (covering more edge cases where one might have previously resorted to `any`) and strictness (catching more errors at compile time).
Re: Announcing TypeScript 2.7
#10On the one hand I am glad they are continuing to enhance TypeScript. On the other hand I am concerned that TypeScript is becoming a very bloated language. If you have seen the latest edition of Stroustrup’s C++ Programming Language book you know what a bloated language looks like. Is that where TypeScript is headed? Programming languages are not like your Word or Excel where more features is better. Some programming…
JS is a big language. It continues to grow without removing features. One codebase can be very functional, another dynamically typed C++ from 2004, another pythonic. As long as they support the entire language while adding static typing (not an easy feat), it's going to grow. In that sense it is very much like C++, though it's still not in the same league of complexity of C++. If you want a small language, look elsew…
> JS is a big language.
Kind of(maybe). But that's beside the point. Typescript is a separate language that happens to compile to Javascript. The TS team is in no way bound to support every style of programming that Javascript supports (and they don't, just by virtue of having strict typing).