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How much does it cost to build a home in Silicon Valley? (2016)

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Re: How much does it cost to build a home in Silicon Valley? (2016)

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This is an interesting article that describes building a $2-6 million dollar house in a matter-of-fact manner. I wonder what the prospective audience size for this article is in the Bay Area –maybe less than 5000 local people are capable of affording these properties.

That's a wild underestimate. I'd guess at least 100k people can afford properties like that, unless you mean something like afford it in cash. Even then, it's still an underestimate.

Re: How much does it cost to build a home in Silicon Valley? (2016)

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I've always wondered what software developers make in the heart of silicon valley. I see some things that basically say 'more than Portland but only by maybe 50% or so', which means perhaps $180K or so? Nobody is buying a million dollar house on that kind of income, but in Portland (where I think houses are pretty expensive) someone making $120K wouldn't have any problem buying a perfectly fine place, even pretty clo…

Salary varies with experience and size of company quite a lot, but $180,000 is certainly not outside the norm. I think it's possible to buy a $1M house on that income if you save for 4-5 years.

I agree and if you have a partner/second income, it would seem even more achievable to me

Re: How much does it cost to build a home in Silicon Valley? (2016)

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I've always wondered what software developers make in the heart of silicon valley. I see some things that basically say 'more than Portland but only by maybe 50% or so', which means perhaps $180K or so? Nobody is buying a million dollar house on that kind of income, but in Portland (where I think houses are pretty expensive) someone making $120K wouldn't have any problem buying a perfectly fine place, even pretty clo…

Senior should make 175-200k base plus 100-200k in RSUs per year rolling - that is if you get a good initial grant and keep getting good reviews by year 4 you have staggered vesting that nets that amount. At 300-400k per year you should be able to live a good lifestyle while saving for a house.

Really senior engineers can certainly make more; 500k for a top 10% performer.

For reference I just got my tax statement for last year and I’m over 300k.

Re: How much does it cost to build a home in Silicon Valley? (2016)

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Had a chat with our insurance agent recently; she wants us to increase our insurance coverage on our home in old palo alto, which is currently calculated based on $350/sq.ft. rebuild cost. She said that clients in the burned-out areas in Santa Rosa were being quoted much higher rates, and although she admitted that was partly due to a large number of people competing for contractors all at once, she believes $450 is…

So based on that rate I should be able to easily purchase my ~550 sq. ft. apartment. In fact the payments on a 30 year mortgage would be about $1300/month. Clearly the problem is the price of land, made even less affordable because of density maximums. If the price of a lot could be split over 6 people, a lot more people could afford to purchase a house.

Yes but your nimby neighbors won’t allow it. Also high end homes and condos have higher profit margins, this is because finishing costs are cheap relative to sale value.

Re: How much does it cost to build a home in Silicon Valley? (2016)

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This is an interesting article that describes building a $2-6 million dollar house in a matter-of-fact manner. I wonder what the prospective audience size for this article is in the Bay Area –maybe less than 5000 local people are capable of affording these properties.

Don't underestimate the number of people out there who are far wealthier than us 9-5 coders—people come from all over the world to buy property on the west coast.

Re: How much does it cost to build a home in Silicon Valley? (2016)

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Not to mention living with all of your extended family under one roof, starting a church or homeless shelter or disco club, stockpiling enough food to outlast a zombie uprising, or displaying your collection of luxury cars you never drive.... More seriously, in general single-family houses should be on the order of 1000–2000 square feet. The rest is typically a complete waste (nobody I know who has a 4000+ square foo…

I don’t know about you, but 1000-2000 sqft for a single family home with an actual family in it is downright cramped. You could turn a garage into a wood shop though if you don’t have a particular need to store your car in a garage. The point of a large home is to turn it into your own personal oasis where you can spend days at a time without ever really needing to leave, and without feeling bored. The thing is, many…

Oh, I don't know. We've lived in a 1900 sq ft house for the past 15 years. We have 7 kids (currently ages 4 to 20) and it has worked out just fine so far. We haven't felt cramped yet.

Re: How much does it cost to build a home in Silicon Valley? (2016)

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post #31

This is an interesting article that describes building a $2-6 million dollar house in a matter-of-fact manner. I wonder what the prospective audience size for this article is in the Bay Area –maybe less than 5000 local people are capable of affording these properties.

That's a wild underestimate. I'd guess at least 100k people can afford properties like that, unless you mean something like afford it in cash. Even then, it's still an underestimate.

So, a $3MM home costs approximately $30K a month after interest, depreciation, taxes, and insurance, right? That's around $360,000 a year. Assuming you're going way overboard and spending half of your income on housing, that's $720K/yr of salary required to support that--or more, if you want to save a little money and have a life outside of work and writing mortgage checks.

How many households are pulling this kind of cash down? Is that a common salary at a big tech company? Maybe for CxOs but not for run of the mill Director-level middle management.

Re: How much does it cost to build a home in Silicon Valley? (2016)

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I've always wondered what software developers make in the heart of silicon valley. I see some things that basically say 'more than Portland but only by maybe 50% or so', which means perhaps $180K or so? Nobody is buying a million dollar house on that kind of income, but in Portland (where I think houses are pretty expensive) someone making $120K wouldn't have any problem buying a perfectly fine place, even pretty clo…

The range of compensation is wide, ie. there is a lot of income inequality among Bay Area software developers. I’d estimate Google, Apple, Facebook alone have a five-digit number of employees or former employees who were there early enough to afford a multi-million dollar home, or who get paid enough now to afford such a house.

There are also some other factors which tend to push up Bay Area home prices. Due to building restrictions, the market for homes is undersupplied. Due to prop 13 and the nice weather, people are less likely to leave even if they don’t need to be here for work anymore. So the market for homes is not very liquid and prices are sort of a one-way ratchet (barring economic meltdown). Really, only the top 10-20% or so of earners are in competition to buy a single family home at all in the area, and that number is shrinking.

Consider a random engineer at Google who bought their home seven years ago for $1M and it’s now worth $2M, while they paid off the mortgage with their RSUs. This person is no bigwig, but they might get approved for a mortgage on a $5M house and afford the down payment no problem.

Re: How much does it cost to build a home in Silicon Valley? (2016)

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a wild underestimate. I'd guess at least 100k people can afford properties like that, unless you mean something like afford it in cash. Even then, it's still an underestimate.

So, a $3MM home costs approximately $30K a month after interest, depreciation, taxes, and insurance, right? That's around $360,000 a year. Assuming you're going way overboard and spending half of your income on housing, that's $720K/yr of salary required to support that--or more, if you want to save a little money and have a life outside of work and writing mortgage checks. How many households are pulling this kind o…

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Re: How much does it cost to build a home in Silicon Valley? (2016)

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post #35

This is an interesting article that describes building a $2-6 million dollar house in a matter-of-fact manner. I wonder what the prospective audience size for this article is in the Bay Area –maybe less than 5000 local people are capable of affording these properties.

Don't underestimate the number of people out there who are far wealthier than us 9-5 coders—people come from all over the world to buy property on the west coast.

Honestly I think 'those' people dont read hacker news or need a guide on how to do this. It was an interesting post but not for anyone that has built or bought property (anywhere) before.
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