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Re: Red Hat to Acquire CoreOS

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Post by politician »

jacques_chester wrote: post #59

This is a good move for CoreOS and Red Hat, I think. I've thought for a while that the platform market would shake out and be left with one and at most two winners. Previously we saw Deis fold into Microsoft and now CoreOS into Red Hat. I expect that Docker will run independently for another few years before their investors realise it's time to push for an acquisition exit, but it's unclear by whom. I figure Heptio w…

I agree that this is a good move by Red Hat to position themselves with rkt and Quay ahead of Docker going to Microsoft (who will pay a premium to try to put this genie back into the bottle)

Given their self-inflicted XHR debacle that dethroned Office, I just don't see Microsoft passing up this opportunity.

Google, on the other hand, doesn't need Docker to plug any holes in their go to market unless it's a blocking play. However, Docker is already cozy with Microsoft, so I don't see a Google acquisition going anywhere.

Re: Red Hat to Acquire CoreOS

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Post by flowless »

pierrebeaucamp wrote: post #33
numbsafari wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Super disappointed in this part of it. Is anyone else aware/familiar with a decent immutable lightweight Linux distro like Container Linux?

If you're looking for immutability, I can recommend NixOS. However what is drawing me to container Linux is mainly its update process

+1

We've also built https://github.com/vpsfreecz/vpsadminos recently which is based on not-os / NixOS

Re: Red Hat to Acquire CoreOS

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Post by alexandre_m »

audidude wrote: post #76
alexandre_m wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Atomic doesn't predate CoreOS. CoreOS = 2013 Atomic host = 2014

OSTree (the foundation for it) was built as part of GNOME Continuous in 2011.

Absolutely.

But Atomic was architected as containers infrastructure and is/was a direct competitor to CoreOS and other lightweight container OSes.

Re: Red Hat to Acquire CoreOS

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Post by gigatexal »

scriptingnerd wrote: post #80
gigatexal wrote: post #39

And they say there's no money in open source... ;-) Anyone want to wager that MS buys Canonical?

This is something I have long thought about. For a long time, I thought they might set their sights on SUSE as well, but they haven't. I dislike the idea of Microsoft acquiring a Linux company. Despite my primary current bread and butter being PowerShell and Windows Servers, I have, in a past life been a UNIX admin, and would prefer the two camps to remain divided. Microsoft embracing "open source" cuts both ways in…

Microsoft is constantly being chummy with Canonical. Coming to Canonical events — offering the WSL based on Ubuntu, etc. it makes total sense. It’s such a Microsoft thing to do: they could buy them and then offer them as a alternative to Windows and still make a ton of money. Or buy them an make WSL even better and shut everything else down. I really think it’s going to happen. And if they get flack from regulators they can just point to RedHat

Re: Red Hat to Acquire CoreOS

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Post by chrissnell »

pierrebeaucamp wrote: post #33
numbsafari wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Super disappointed in this part of it. Is anyone else aware/familiar with a decent immutable lightweight Linux distro like Container Linux?

If you're looking for immutability, I can recommend NixOS. However what is drawing me to container Linux is mainly its update process

The draw of CoreOS Linux for me is its curated pairing of the Linux kernel, Docker, and etcd. There was a commercial entity reviewing upstream changelogs and making sure that they were pairing components appropriately. I wonder if an non-commercial district can really get this right.

Re: Red Hat to Acquire CoreOS

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Post by audidude »

alexandre_m wrote: post #84
audidude wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OSTree (the foundation for it) was built as part of GNOME Continuous in 2011.

Absolutely. But Atomic was architected as containers infrastructure and is/was a direct competitor to CoreOS and other lightweight container OSes.

It might appear that way to people that weren't involved in the history, but a lot of it was based on ideas learned from stateless linux, circa 2004.

People in the desktop team had been working on read-only root OS's for a long time, and it was only at a certain point that RH management bought off on forming a product/spin. But to say that work only started once Atomic was a thing would be inaccurate.

It's probably fair to say that ChromeOS/CoreOS lit a match under some upper management though.

Re: Red Hat to Acquire CoreOS

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Post by chrissnell »

zapita wrote: post #77
aberoham wrote: post #64

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I have personally seen checks cut to CoreOS that were larger than the D&B number you quote. The set of similar corporate customers we'd run into was surprisingly vast and diverse. Redhat's made a brilliant move here.

I doubt CoreOS has any meaningful revenue (my guess is they are between $5M and $10M of recurring annual revenue). I also doubt they have a single customer that isn't either A. already a Red Hat customer, or B. too small to be interesting to them. For $250M Red Hat bought outstanding technology, a strong R&D team with community street cred, and upstream influence in Kubernetes. They know how to monetize these things.…

As someone who used CoreOS in a commercial setting, I think you are spot on. We wanted to pay them but we were never big enough to afford their commercial offerings. They wanted a lot of cash for their subscriptions and I think most would-be customers were looking for something less expensive--basically open source with support.

Redhat offers an existing and proven enterprise customer base that will cut the big checks. Redhat customers are the customers that CoreOS always wanted but likely struggled to acquire.

Re: Red Hat to Acquire CoreOS

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Post by mdekkers »

dgellow wrote: post #42
numbsafari wrote: post #30

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Super disappointed in this part of it. Is anyone else aware/familiar with a decent immutable lightweight Linux distro like Container Linux?

RancherOS: http://rancher.com/rancher-os/

Rancher is awesome. As was CoreOS, and I am really pissed RH bought them out. RH manage to break everything they touch.
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