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U.S. Regulators to Subpoena Crypto Exchange Bitfinex, Tether

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Re: U.S. Regulators to Subpoena Crypto Exchange Bitfinex, Tether

#71

This is good news for quality cryptocurrency organizations. Bitfinex has problems, so does Tether and it's good to see bad actors in the crypto world getting weeded out, called out and put down.

C'mon, say the "This is good for Bitcoin!" thing.

Bitcoin is a dinosaur that will either need to adapt or die.

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#72

This is good news for quality cryptocurrency organizations. Bitfinex has problems, so does Tether and it's good to see bad actors in the crypto world getting weeded out, called out and put down.

> This is good news for quality cryptocurrency organizations. Are there any? I’m being honest and not snarky here: I’ve yet to see a single company in the space that’s not at least somewhat shady.

Check out Gemini exchange. 100% professional operation

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#73
The SEC took much stronger action with AriseBank.[1] Emergency asset freeze. Receiver appointed. ICO shut down. The SEC alleges AriseBank "falsely stated that it purchased [a Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation]-insured bank which enabled it to offer customers FDIC-insured accounts."

Clearly, the SEC has had it with people running these huge scams.

[1] https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-8

Re: U.S. Regulators to Subpoena Crypto Exchange Bitfinex, Tether

#74

This is good news for quality cryptocurrency organizations. Bitfinex has problems, so does Tether and it's good to see bad actors in the crypto world getting weeded out, called out and put down.

C'mon, say the "This is good for Bitcoin!" thing.

which is odd because I thought the libertarian dystopia that bitcoin is pushing us towards abhors this kind of regulatory interference

Re: U.S. Regulators to Subpoena Crypto Exchange Bitfinex, Tether

#75
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're skipping a key bit here; billions of Tethers magically appeared on the market in the last month and were used to buy BTC in suspiciously regular fashion, in 100 million USDT amounts, and with no clear evidence that it was actually purchased by anyone using real USD.

Another key bit: Tether's website claims "frequent audits", but their auditor a) never completed their first audit and b) just severed their relationship. https://www.coindesk.com/tether-confirms-relationship-audito...

I'm guessing the auditors weren't happy with "out of thin air" when they asked where the the backing currency came from.

The Tether folks were like "Our balance sheet is really simple! We just add numbers to this column until it evens out, what's the problem?!?" and the auditors are like "that's just fraud".

Re: U.S. Regulators to Subpoena Crypto Exchange Bitfinex, Tether

#76

If this is a grand jury subpoena, things could get ugly fast in the crypto space. Despite all talk of decentralization, the major exchanges pose a systemic risk.

There are a bunch of decentralized cryptocurrency exchange projects coming. My favorite so far are https://loopring.org and https://0xproject.com, but there are like a dozen out there.

This is just the beginning. As centralized exchanges start having all sorts of problems (CoinCheck, Bitfinex, maybe Bittrex and Poloniex soon), more people will start looking into decentralized exchanges and thus increase their liquidity. Even Binance, one of the biggest centralized exchanges right now, said that it wants to become a decentralized exchange.

All of this probably won't happen within the next year, but it will happen. It's just a matter of all the pieces falling into place for people to switch. Probably the #1 thing that could help their adoption is being able to integrate new cryptocurrencies faster than any centralized exchange can, especially if this integration is "permissionless", by simply allowing the cryptocurrency developers to support its protocol and then have the cryptcurrency automatically appear on the exchange.

Re: U.S. Regulators to Subpoena Crypto Exchange Bitfinex, Tether

#77
post #51
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're skipping a key bit here; billions of Tethers magically appeared on the market in the last month and were used to buy BTC in suspiciously regular fashion, in 100 million USDT amounts, and with no clear evidence that it was actually purchased by anyone using real USD.

Here’s what I don’t understand. You can exchange bitcoins for fiat currency. But afaik you can’t exchange USDT for fiat. So why is anyone willing to take the risk of holding on to USDT? Why are any exchanges even willing to touch it?

I think the market believes that even if there is some level of foul play, bitfinex has the deep pockets to make it up to them, in at least the strange way they made it up to the people from the previous hacks.

Bitfinex DOES seem to have very deep pockets to be able to respond somehow to it. I doubt bitfinex could pull off the self-heist move and dissapear.

Re: U.S. Regulators to Subpoena Crypto Exchange Bitfinex, Tether

#78

If this is a grand jury subpoena, things could get ugly fast in the crypto space. Despite all talk of decentralization, the major exchanges pose a systemic risk.

The achilles' heel with these systems is their integration points with fiat. Always has been.

For a different perspective, I would say their problem is integration with the "real world" with constrains that bitcoin wasn't designed for.

Re: U.S. Regulators to Subpoena Crypto Exchange Bitfinex, Tether

#79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a little correction. Tether and Bitfinex were exposed in Panama Papers as sister companies. They are not two unrelated as they say they are. Even more reason to stay away from Bitfinex and USDT

correct. phil potter is director at both bitfinex and tether. tethers get deposited straight to bitfinex upon creation as far as i understand it. source: https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/82024464

yes that's true. You can even see the tether printer and the sends of tether on the omni network. The omni network is a layer on top of bitcoin and is totally transparent

Re: U.S. Regulators to Subpoena Crypto Exchange Bitfinex, Tether

#80
post #73

The SEC took much stronger action with AriseBank.[1] Emergency asset freeze. Receiver appointed. ICO shut down. The SEC alleges AriseBank "falsely stated that it purchased [a Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation]-insured bank which enabled it to offer customers FDIC-insured accounts." Clearly, the SEC has had it with people running these huge scams. [1] https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-8

At least if you're absolutely blatant about your lies. One quick call to the FDIC and it should have been clear that they were spewing bullshit that might come back to haunt the government.
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