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Re: New Rejection Reason From Apple May Have Major Implications

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Post by joezydeco »

Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #19
edd wrote: post #13

Can we please all wait for Apple to clarify before getting too excited at another reason to hate the app store? As much as a sensationalist 'Apple are evil' might help promote your product only having one letter to go on and not waiting for a response for clarification is really lame journalism.

That sort of rational, reasoned approach has no place in a discussion like this. Clearly what this situation calls for is a knee jerk reaction based on limited information and pre-existing prejudices and I'm shocked that you could ever think otherwise.

Right. Let's not preemptively collect data points. Lets wait for Apple to clarify their mysterious positions just because we asked them to. I'm sure that will happen right away.

I don't see the OP as a "knee jerk reaction" but rather a warning to everyone else saying "hey, things might be changing again, stay alert".

Re: New Rejection Reason From Apple May Have Major Implications

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Post by dejb »

msy wrote: post #18

I think the wording is poor here but this basically appears to boil down to 'you cannot ask for a bunch of personal information from users for no valid reason'. Which seems entirely reasonable and a good use of Apple's power to stop the harvesting of personal information. But lets not let that get in the way of a good outrage session.

> But lets not let that get in the way of a good outrage session.

I know it's an old argument and many people don't like to be reminded of it, but for some people, each an every one of these 'total platform rejections' represents an outrage.

Re: New Rejection Reason From Apple May Have Major Implications

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Post by Tyrannosaurs »

joezydeco wrote: post #31
Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sort of rational, reasoned approach has no place in a discussion like this. Clearly what this situation calls for is a knee jerk reaction based on limited information and pre-existing prejudices and I'm shocked that you could ever think otherwise.

Right. Let's not preemptively collect data points. Lets wait for Apple to clarify their mysterious positions just because we asked them to . I'm sure that will happen right away. I don't see the OP as a "knee jerk reaction" but rather a warning to everyone else saying "hey, things might be changing again, stay alert".

And we should definitely take comments meant in jest as seriously as possible.

Re: New Rejection Reason From Apple May Have Major Implications

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Post by recoiledsnake »

msy wrote: post #18

I think the wording is poor here but this basically appears to boil down to 'you cannot ask for a bunch of personal information from users for no valid reason'. Which seems entirely reasonable and a good use of Apple's power to stop the harvesting of personal information. But lets not let that get in the way of a good outrage session.

Why do people get all defensive when it's Apple making a mistake? Even if you what you wrote is accurate, Apple is at fault here because Read It Later does require an account to sync the lists, and only needs a username/password to create an account. That's barely any personal information.

It's extremely defensive fanboys like you that muddy the debate. 'OMG people are raging on poor poor Apple, must defend and downvote!'

Re: New Rejection Reason From Apple May Have Major Implications

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Post by lolhn »

dejb wrote: post #32
msy wrote: post #18

I think the wording is poor here but this basically appears to boil down to 'you cannot ask for a bunch of personal information from users for no valid reason'. Which seems entirely reasonable and a good use of Apple's power to stop the harvesting of personal information. But lets not let that get in the way of a good outrage session.

> But lets not let that get in the way of a good outrage session. I know it's an old argument and many people don't like to be reminded of it, but for some people, each an every one of these 'total platform rejections' represents an outrage.

You don't have a god given right to develop for the iphone anymore than you have one to develop for an xbox, a wii, or your in-dash nav system.

Nobody has to support you.

If this shit outrages you, your life is going to be very miserable, for no reason. Though it does seem that you keep the outrage down by being DEEPLY hypocritical about which things bother you, so that's a start.

Re: New Rejection Reason From Apple May Have Major Implications

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Post by 16s »

mkramlich wrote: post #16

I've rejected Apple's ability to tell me what programming language I'm allowed to use (whether I'm kept back in the 80's in terms of language sophistication, for example) and I've rejected their ability to make me wait weeks only to hear an update has been rejected for some dumb random reason which they shouldn't care about at all. I've rejected a marketplace full of fart apps that somehow do meet with their approval…

How can you reject C and fart apps in the same rant? One is a serious technological breakthrough, the other is a mockery of technology.

The OpenBSD guys have a point when they are critical of much of the new-fangled technology. When a significant percentage of power consumption and band-width are used for fart apps and Farmville, you have to wonder if that is a wise use of the technology.

Edit: Clarified C's place in technology.

Re: New Rejection Reason From Apple May Have Major Implications

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Post by wallflower »

rimantas wrote: post #20
mkramlich wrote: post #16

I've rejected Apple's ability to tell me what programming language I'm allowed to use (whether I'm kept back in the 80's in terms of language sophistication, for example) and I've rejected their ability to make me wait weeks only to hear an update has been rejected for some dumb random reason which they shouldn't care about at all. I've rejected a marketplace full of fart apps that somehow do meet with their approval…

Too bad you did not reject an urge to rant about the things you neither care about nor use them.

The poster of the parent comment is a published iPhone developer with substantial experience in delivering games and custom apps.

http://synisma.com/iphone.html

Re: New Rejection Reason From Apple May Have Major Implications

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Post by shadowfox »

rimantas wrote: post #20
mkramlich wrote: post #16

I've rejected Apple's ability to tell me what programming language I'm allowed to use (whether I'm kept back in the 80's in terms of language sophistication, for example) and I've rejected their ability to make me wait weeks only to hear an update has been rejected for some dumb random reason which they shouldn't care about at all. I've rejected a marketplace full of fart apps that somehow do meet with their approval…

Too bad you did not reject an urge to rant about the things you neither care about nor use them.

But he did use and care about them. It is a rant from experience
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