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‘Jackpotting’ Attacks Hit U.S. ATMs

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Re: ‘Jackpotting’ Attacks Hit U.S. ATMs

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The vast majority carry an internet connected gps tracker with microphone, Wifi, Bluetooth, sms and email all in one place with them at all times, and bank accounts, sms, emails are already accessible to the state on the server side. Shops are using facial recognition and Bluetooth to advertise and track customers. So I honestly think privacy in what you purchase is a ship that has sailed, this data will be recorded…

All of that can be turned off or circumvented, or you could even just leave the phone at home. But laws are tightening on cash payments, a lot of countries have already made cash transactions over a certain amount illegal. At the moment only for services, you can still exchange cash with your friends, but you may get a lot of scrutiny if you wish to deposit said cash into your bank account.

Yes you can, but nobody does, because the inconvenience outweighs the advantages of increased privacy.

Cash is doomed by the same problem - it's inconvenient, and also pretty insane to carry around paper tokens when we could carry digital ones.

Even if you do manage to evade some tracking (e.g. by using cash) cameras are tracking you everywhere, we have facial recognition improving rapidly, car number plate tracking etc etc. At some point it will be possible to track your entire life with ease simply from following your movements, and it will be very difficult to circumvent without laws to control that sort of information.

I do think it's more important to control the use of extensive personal information and tracking than to try to limit it, because limiting it simply won't work, and can be easily bypassed.

Re: ‘Jackpotting’ Attacks Hit U.S. ATMs

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The vast majority carry an internet connected gps tracker with microphone, Wifi, Bluetooth, sms and email all in one place with them at all times, and bank accounts, sms, emails are already accessible to the state on the server side. Shops are using facial recognition and Bluetooth to advertise and track customers. So I honestly think privacy in what you purchase is a ship that has sailed, this data will be recorded…

In Europe, the General Data Protection Regulation supposedly does just this. There is a notable exception for “national security”, but it does at least help move in the right direction. https://www.csoonline.com/article/3202771/data-protection/ge...

Yes I agree that's the correct approach.

Re: ‘Jackpotting’ Attacks Hit U.S. ATMs

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Not too many walls will stand up to being rammed by a Bobcat or other small skid loader, and those can be easily transported by a pickup truck and a trailer.

The ATMs built into walls tend to be larger / heavier than the standalone ones. You gonna fit a crane / forklift truck on that pickup truck / trailer too?

Do you know what a skid loader is? My point is that it'll just punch a hole in the wall, ATM and all. Then pick it up and drive away.

Re: ‘Jackpotting’ Attacks Hit U.S. ATMs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ATMs built into walls tend to be larger / heavier than the standalone ones. You gonna fit a crane / forklift truck on that pickup truck / trailer too?

Do you know what a skid loader is? My point is that it'll just punch a hole in the wall, ATM and all. Then pick it up and drive away.

Oh it's going to drive away now. That will be hard for a police car to catch up with.
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