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Re: With teen mental health deteriorating over five years, there’s a likely culprit

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Post by pymai »

matte_black wrote: post #286
malux85 wrote: post #181

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Comp-Sci/Electrical Engineers - I've never seen any of them without a smartphone, or even heard them talk about their friends switching. Sounds like a good idea though :)

I would try switching to a flip phone but the problem is I want a cool modern flip phone not something that looks vintage.

im not sure you can have flip + modern in a phone. ive never seen it anyway

if the idea of having a flip phone is so that you will be less distracted then maybe a flip case might help to do something similar. preferably one that has really loud velcro so that people around you will get pissed if you keeping opening it every 2nd minute to look at facecheck

Re: With teen mental health deteriorating over five years, there’s a likely culprit

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Post by pymai »

randomname2 wrote: post #9

Is it possible this is also in part due to EMFs from their phones (and environment) and circadian rhythm disturbances from screens? Some studies suggest the radiation can be risky to kids: Christ A, Gosselin MC, Christopoulou M, K’uhn S, & Kuster N. (2010 Jan.). Age dependent tissue-specific exposure of cell phone users. Physics in Medicine and Biology, 55: 1767-1783. Retrieved from http://iopscience.iop.org/0031-915…

blue light from screens is a much bigger problem and its mostly been proven at this stage that it can affect your sleeping patterns

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

chillfox wrote: post #232
MIKarlsen wrote: post #25

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Not as much as LinkedIn. LinkedIn is a fairytale-land for adults, and it's bizzare (to me) that anyone wants to participate. It's not even humblebragging anymore. It's "Look what I made, and what I achieved" packed into casual "Oh this thing? Yeah it's just my perfect life"-packages...

The worst thing about LinkedIn is the guys who think it is a dating site. I have completely stopped replying to "recruiters" who contact me on LinkedIn. I still keep it updated though.

If you aren't using it for career opportunities then why be on it at all?

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

jimmaswell wrote: post #157
deckard1 wrote: post #12

They did a study using Facebook. But I'm more curious about Instagram. "Look at all these rich beautiful people with millions of followers sailing around the world on their yachts." Ten minutes on Instagram is enough to fill any sane person with existential dread and bring about severe depression.

This is ridiculous. Depressed and filled with existential dread over seeing pictures of rich people on yachts, really? Do you feel that way every time you pass by a large house or see an expensive car on the road too?

It's quite obvious people do, this is what drives the whole rat race.

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Post by _ywdj »

rdm_blackhole wrote: post #185
lumberjack wrote: post #62

Too quick to blame, "the screen". Is it really just the existence of social media that caused this, or is it maybe a change of culture that emerged with the spread of the Internet and social media? For example, today a child from a religious community might encounter atheism at 12 or 13 whereas previously they would encounter it when they went off to college. Maybe that child happens to be suffering from depression a…

So religious people never get depressed? What a stupid argument! Believing that some (unproven and nonexistent) entity is going to solve all your problems is completely delusional.

Believing that some (unproven and nonexistent) entity is going to solve all your problems

Few religious people believe anything so simplistic, and many religious believers have a much greater sense of personal responsibility and empowerment than the norm.

I'm not a religious believer, and only a few years ago I was an indignant anti-theist, but I can now easily accept that the decline of religion could be a factor in the rise in depression (having experienced much depression in my own life).

Some of the factors in religion that may reduce the propensity for depression include: a sense of meaning beyond one's self; a sense of belonging and community; a sense of the transcendent; the sense of fulfilment that comes from charity and/or service to others; having a set of stories, principles, metaphors etc that can help in working through difficult life problems.

Religion may not be for you, and the "benefits" I've suggested above may seem absurd given your own understanding or experience of religion, but please try to consider that perhaps the reason so many people still find it compelling is that there's more in it for them than there might seem from a simplistic assessment.

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Post by gkya »

spuz wrote: post #374
gkya wrote: post #372

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The usual fallacy of "I don't experience it, so how come others do?"

That's not a fallacy, it's just a question.

That is a fallacy, whether worded as a rhetorical question or explicitly as "faulty generalisation" or "fallacy of defective induction". The fact is that the subjective observation is generalised without any buttressing evidence whatsoever. "That's not my experience, so that's doubtful."

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Post by sireat »

matte_black wrote: post #286
malux85 wrote: post #181

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Comp-Sci/Electrical Engineers - I've never seen any of them without a smartphone, or even heard them talk about their friends switching. Sounds like a good idea though :)

I would try switching to a flip phone but the problem is I want a cool modern flip phone not something that looks vintage.

The best we could get my mom was LG Wine Smart a year ago, she is reasonably happy with it as she requires physical buttons.

There really is not much choice when it comes to flip phones today: https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nCPUCoresMin=2&nRamMin...

Out of those only Gionee W909 has at least somewhat respectable specs.

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Post by Firadeoclus »

abusoufiyan wrote: post #333
newfoundglory wrote: post #244

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Well, yea. The housing market is super fucked up, that’s what’s wrong.

I guess but why would teenagers of all people care about this? You don't need a house. Many of the kids I knew growing up lived in apartments. If they lived in a house they could inherit it from their parents. Why is the housing market something children worry about?

Teenagers are worried about where they're going to live, and staying with their parents well into adulthood is usually not a desired option.

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Post by bambataa »

sheepmullet wrote: post #222
lsc wrote: post #140

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> If you really do look down on your old friends and acquaintances like that (so that you see their posts as all about being poorer and less articulate than you), then you're probably the one making posts that depress them. Sometimes, yes, and that is the cause of some negative self-reflection on my part, but I think that there's another factor at work... I think that especially the "racist memes with spelling mistak…

> For many of them, they see education as a negative attribute Yes it's an unfortunate byproduct of the link between education and left wing ideology. We often joked that people who go away to college come back dumber than when they left. As an example when my daughter was in college she came to visit us and was talking about how I was contributing to the patriarchy and enabling the oppression of women and how women…

It must have been discomforting that your sweet girl had become a woman with thoughts and opinions differed to yours.

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Post by baud147258 »

manmal wrote: post #345
lsc wrote: post #331

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>Also, even having a handful of very wealthy friends can eventually lead to feelings of envy. I.. huh. I really don't get this. Maybe it is because I am doing better than I thought I was going to for the first half of my life? or maybe I'm just less jealous than most people? but yeah, there are a few people I follow who you could say I am envious of; people who are super successful in all the ways I want to be succes…

If you are perfectly content with your life, then Facebook probably won’t be an issue at all. But if you have _any_ area where you don’t feel fulfilled - like bad life/work balance, insufficient funds, loneliness, unfulfilled baby wish - then Facebook is going to rub it into your face, daily, that others have what you desire, and does it in a misleading way. Let’s say you can’t have a baby and you have a colleague wi…

> But if you have _any_ area where you don’t feel fulfilled then Facebook is going to rub it into your face, daily, that others have what you desire, and does it in a misleading way.

Reading this, I'm very happy that I don't really use Facebook.

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