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My next laptop isn't gonna be a Mac

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Re: My next laptop isn't gonna be a Mac

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Good for you, still millions of users will by apple products because they are simple to use out of box. People here are only thinking about their power user experience forgetting that most users don't give a damn about that and are whining that apple forget about "pro" users. Apple never was design for being pro. Also argument about cost is silly. Apple products cost almost the same as high-end computers are Samsung…

I found the argument about cost even sillier than you described. If Apple were to continue to support devices that are 10+ years old (those that shipped with PPC arch) and didn't drop support for obsolete products, the price would be far higher for each device.

Re: My next laptop isn't gonna be a Mac

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My computer after MacBook Pro is PC with i5 7600 and I couldn't be happier. Total cost was around $1200 and I got much more powerful system than my old MacBook for which I paid $2500. Processor is not throttled mobile nonsense. I bought 16 GB RAM for few hundred bucks and if I want, I can buy another 16GB and put it there. Windows 10 is actually good enough (it's the first Windows that's actually quite usable for me) and with all those bugs in new macOS I'm not regretting about switching, I only regret about investing so much money in Mac software.

I guess MacBooks are good for people who don't want to tinker with hardware or who don't want to use Windows or Linux and ready to pay a lot of money for this. I was hyped in the past about it, but it turned out that my priorities are just very different.

Also, contrary to popular beliefs, I've found Apple's engineering very poor, hardware is very unreliable and in many cases it seems to be done on purpose. Apple is the only manufacturer, whose cords are wearing out, I never encountered that with other manufacturers and I encountered that with every Apple device I owned (2 macbooks, iPhone, iPad, iPod).

That said, I really like iOS, so, I guess, I'll still buy iPhone. And that's the only reason I'm still looking into Macs (I like integration between iOS and macOS). The only computer that I'm interested in is new Mac Pro, so I'll wait and see what they'll make. But it's very unlikely that they'll make a compelling computer, IMO.

Re: My next laptop isn't gonna be a Mac

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The only thing that still keeps me MacOS is the trackpad.

When my MBA 13" breaks, I will just replace it with another MBA 13", which I already did two times. One got orange juice, the other vomit of my son.

But what if the MBA 13" is not available anymore?

It will be somewhat difficult for me to find a replacement. Perhaps a Surface Book but will xfce handle the trackpad as smoothly as the MBA? But how to find out for myself without risking a purchase first?

Did anyone install Linux on a Surface Book and compare the smoothness of the trackpad with the one of the MBA?

Re: My next laptop isn't gonna be a Mac

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My biggest problem with the current MacBook line up is the much higher price, reduced feature set and the widely reported hardware quality issues with keyboards, speakers and body rattles.

I won’t be buying a Mac with the current keyboard simply because I don’t want the risk of it failing, not that I can afford one. Fortunately my mid 2014 15” is still going strong.

iirc the first generation 2012 15” also has all kinds of problems. I’m hoping Apple get their act together, and USB C is more ubiquitous, by the time I have to upgrade.

(I’m also lucky enough to have a couple of work supplied machines of all types)

Re: My next laptop isn't gonna be a Mac

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I didn't even know people are working on this kind of stuff.. and on a lot of other fronts too, Apple is losing its edge by not having the newer form factors like 2 in 1s and detachables. so much potential there.. but it's really not their bread and butter any more..

> Apple is losing its edge by not having the newer form factors

I think that the iPad Pro is supposed to cover that base.

(This is not an endorsement of the iPad Pro. I agree with your point, and I'm very happy with just having replaced my 2014 Macbook Pro with a Lenovo X1 Yoga.)

Re: My next laptop isn't gonna be a Mac

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Is the author of the article actually complaining about not being able to run 68K Mac software in 2018? The last 68K Mac came out in 1994.

Why shouldn't Apple remove insecure ftp and telnet from the default installation? You can still install it if you really need it but who in this day and age would use anything that transmits passwords over plaintext?

As far as complaining about no desktop for Pros, I've read nothing but good things about the iMac Pro.

There are a lot of real complaints about the Mac -the Mac Mini not being upgraded in 4 years, the Mac Pro not being seriously upgraded in 5, the MacBook line being dated and not keeping up with latest innovations, etc.

Re: My next laptop isn't gonna be a Mac

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post #9

Good for you, still millions of users will by apple products because they are simple to use out of box. People here are only thinking about their power user experience forgetting that most users don't give a damn about that and are whining that apple forget about "pro" users. Apple never was design for being pro. Also argument about cost is silly. Apple products cost almost the same as high-end computers are Samsung…

>Apple never was design for being pro.

It was, but not for pro software engineers, but for pro designers, film editors, etc.

Re: My next laptop isn't gonna be a Mac

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Not being on Facebook, what does "contains speculative fixes for hangs on Facebook" mean?

The sentence is saying that there was a bug in a previous version of TenFourFox that caused the browser to hang when browsing to Facebook, and they speculate that they have fixed the bug in this release.

ah sorry about that, the cookie warning was folded over the subtitle and missed that line; wrongly assumed it was an operating system.
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