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correlation does not imply causation
“Correlation does not imply causation, but it does waggle its eyebrows suggestively and gesture furtively while mouthing ‘look over there.’” (Thanks to XKCD) It’s true that correlation does not imply causation. But it’s a stupid middlebrow dismissal to throw out there.
Study: Increases in Depressive Symptoms, Suicide-Related Outcomes, and Suicide Rates Among U.S. Adolescents After 2010 and Links to Increased New Media Screen Time Citation: Jean M. Twenge, Thomas E. Joiner, Megan L. Rogers, Gabrielle N. Martin. Clinical Psychological Science Vol 6, Issue 1, pp. 3 - 17. November 14, 2017. Link: https://doi.org/10.1177/2167702617723376 DOI: 10.1177/2167702617723376 Abstract: In two na…
correlation does not imply causation
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correlation does not imply causation
What does imply causation?
Epistemologically, causation is the intersection of three things:
1) Temporal precedence
2) Covariance (i.e. correlation)
3) Absence of likely alternative explanations
Number 3 is by far the trickiest. Our inability to definitively rule out all possible alternatives means one has to resort to inference where causation is concerned.
Too quick to blame, "the screen". Is it really just the existence of social media that caused this, or is it maybe a change of culture that emerged with the spread of the Internet and social media? For example, today a child from a religious community might encounter atheism at 12 or 13 whereas previously they would encounter it when they went off to college. Maybe that child happens to be suffering from depression a…
I don't see how the difference would matter. You can never think technological progress without the societal changes it entails, even if software developers etc. like to do so to ignore the responsibility.
Teenagers get depressed when they are in love, their love is unrequited, and they are constantly reminded of that fact. Facebook facilitates all of these conditions. Why is love never mentioned in these studies as a primary motivator in teen suicide?
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Why would anyone browse LinkedIn? This is actually a serious question. I'm pretty good about keeping mine updated, but the only viewers I'm planning on are recruiters, who would be getting the same information regardless.
Because Facebook/Twitter/Instagram is blocked at a lot of work places, while LinkedIn is not...
Tuesday, this was the theme at my toastmaster's debate club[1] - I got stuck arguing that social media doesn't make you depressed. And... my problem with my argument wasn't that it was untrue, but that it was kinda mean. I don't feel jealous of the lives of almost anyone I went to high school with; quite the opposite. A lot of them post "racist memes with spelling mistakes" - which is sad on many levels; If nothing e…
If you really do look down on your old friends and acquaintances like that (so that you see their posts as all about being poorer and less articulate than you), then you're probably the one making posts that depress them . Imagine yourself as if you went to highschool in the society where you now work (so that now, the people you used to know are twice as educated and lots of them are far more wealthy), or perhaps im…
Plenty of rich educated people are racists.
Turning it into him making them depressed (are they even depressed?) Is quite unfair and waaay to much benefit of doubt to them and waaay too little to him.. It is not his fault they believe in whatever that racist meme promoted.
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If you really do look down on your old friends and acquaintances like that (so that you see their posts as all about being poorer and less articulate than you), then you're probably the one making posts that depress them . Imagine yourself as if you went to highschool in the society where you now work (so that now, the people you used to know are twice as educated and lots of them are far more wealthy), or perhaps im…
> If you really do look down on your old friends and acquaintances like that (so that you see their posts as all about being poorer and less articulate than you), then you're probably the one making posts that depress them. Sometimes, yes, and that is the cause of some negative self-reflection on my part, but I think that there's another factor at work... I think that especially the "racist memes with spelling mistak…
That's a very common experience I'm actually surprised to hear that it's ever any other way.
To go a bit historical materialist on you, I think that if you took the kids at your old school and made them ten times better at thinking and ten times worse at everything else, their values would re-adjust so that they felt valuable again. People balance their values between the need to have a target to work towards and the desire to not feel terrible all the time - if you're very bad at something you're unlikely to find it an appropriate goal or a comfortable self-measure.
Teenagers get depressed when they are in love, their love is unrequited, and they are constantly reminded of that fact. Facebook facilitates all of these conditions. Why is love never mentioned in these studies as a primary motivator in teen suicide?
Or just rejection and being a social outcast in general.
They did a study using Facebook. But I'm more curious about Instagram. "Look at all these rich beautiful people with millions of followers sailing around the world on their yachts." Ten minutes on Instagram is enough to fill any sane person with existential dread and bring about severe depression.
Completely agree. I also believe that YouTube can have similar results. Kids watch videos of "professional" YouTubers having nice cars, traveling all the time, living in nice homes, etc... We have had to significantly limit the amount of time our kids are exposed to YouTube (and Instagram) simply because of the "I want it now" and "I want that one" mentality it has caused on some occasions.