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Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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Post by anon1253 »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #130
ptaipale wrote: post #127

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There are many good examples of DIY approach at the IKEA Hackers blog. https://www.ikeahackers.net/

The Lack specifically is one of the most versatile pieces of furniture in existence. Dirt cheap, symmetrical, strong load bearing, simple design and assembly. The classic “Lack Rack” server racks have been posted on here several times as another example of what you can do with the Lack.

For those curious about Lack server gear https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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Post by Ma8ee »

edraferi wrote: post #74
jacquesm wrote: post #26

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Stuff from that era was really good. High quality woods and good finishing work. Then it went downhill with the low point somewhere around '97 or so and since then it has been slowly climbing back up. But there is a long way to go if they ever want to get back to their old quality level and their profit margins would likely suffer as a consequence.

IKEA has several price/quality options. I’ve shopped there for a long time and slowly moved up the product line. Their breadth makes it hard to compete with. On the low end, pretty much anything cheaper than IKEAs entry level is total garbage. I’m looking at you Target! That stuff is little better than a cardboard box. On the high end, price rapidly outpaces quality. Every time I think “maybe I’ll get real furniture…

I agree. The jump to “real” furniture is ridiculous. Suddenly the dinner table cost $3000. And if you try to find something in between there are the stores whose main selling point seem to be that they aren’t IKEA. Their prices are double and the quality is worse than IKEA.

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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Post by dang »

tjoff wrote: post #17
jacquesm wrote: post #10

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I'll bet that was the highest quality stuff Ikea ever produced. I was in a store for recycled stuff a week ago or so looking for a typewriter and some old comic books for my kids and it struck me that none of the furniture they was made by Ikea. That translates into there being a direct path to the landfill from Ikea.

You obviously have never bought anything second hand. Ikea items are extremely popular and easy to sell used.

Would you please omit personal swipes from HN comments? They're against the site guidelines because they lower discussion quality and provoke worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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Post by anon1253 »

5_minutes wrote: post #42
afriend4lyfe wrote: post #38

"In the later years of his life, Mr Kamprad had faced questions over his past links to the Nazis." It's crazy how he ran Ikea for over 70 years but a quarter of the article deals with his ties to Nazis. Granted, he admits it was the "greatest mistake" of his life, so I suppose the attention to it may not be unwarranted. But I think it would have been prudent to touch on what caused him to shift his perspective. "Yout…

Objectively, what IBM did, in helping the nazis, and was collaborating with them, for many years into the war - even when the US was getting involved —, was much worse then what this guy was doing. There’s also Porsche, Volkswagen (basically, Hitler’s own brand) and any other brands that were involved, and basically the catholic church was preaching in many EU countries for their sons to join the German army...

Hugo Boss, Kodak, Volkswagen, Siemens, Ford, IBM, IG Farben/Bayer

All of these are still around and were much more involved than Ingvar Kamprad was at the time.

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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Post by tjoff »

dang wrote: post #144
tjoff wrote: post #17

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You obviously have never bought anything second hand. Ikea items are extremely popular and easy to sell used.

Would you please omit personal swipes from HN comments? They're against the site guidelines because they lower discussion quality and provoke worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I agree that I should have phrased that differently.

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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Post by loceng »

kalleboo wrote: post #103
loceng wrote: post #76

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Eventually once we build the post-usefulness processing costs into products, we'll process/recycle everything fully as it should be instead of going to landfill; it's one of those Genuine Progress Index vs. GPD measurement things.

I think landfilling is pretty rare in developed countries. Mostly only the US has enough cheap free space to do it. Most countries incinerate their garbage. Countries that used to mostly landfill like the UK are now moving more and more to incineration.

Incinerating likely isn't the best solution, however I've never looked into or studied the science behind it all..

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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Post by woolvalley »

toomanybeersies wrote: post #31

Moving from a country with no Ikea to a country with Ikea has been a paradigm shift for me, and I'm not sure it's entirely a good one. It used to be that if I wanted furniture, I'd go to the second hand store, and look for some used furniture that fitted my purpose. If I couldn't find something that worked, then I'd look online, and then failing that, I'd buy it new. I found some real gems at the second hand store. A…

TBH, because of the amount of effort that Ikea furniture assembly and shopping takes, I'd rather just buy it used & 'pre assembled'.

Ikea being a maze is really annoying when you just want to buy a few cups. Going to target or similar is about the same kind of furniture, for the same price, with a much faster experience.

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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Post by woolvalley »

philjohn wrote: post #102
jacquesm wrote: post #10

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I'll bet that was the highest quality stuff Ikea ever produced. I was in a store for recycled stuff a week ago or so looking for a typewriter and some old comic books for my kids and it struck me that none of the furniture they was made by Ikea. That translates into there being a direct path to the landfill from Ikea.

You say that, but in two previous homes I've purchased, assembled and fitted IKEA kitchens - they were far better quality than other options in the same price range, and even held a candle to ones costing 2x as much. Solid oak for the doors and drawer fronts, good quality hinges and handles - the cabinets themselves were just laminated chipboard, but unless you're spending £££ that's the same for most kitchen supplie…

A good chunk of that wooden kitchen stuff that ikea sells is actually a thin layer of wood with an MDF core inside. For example: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/70335212/

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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Post by woolvalley »

Ma8ee wrote: post #142
edraferi wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IKEA has several price/quality options. I’ve shopped there for a long time and slowly moved up the product line. Their breadth makes it hard to compete with. On the low end, pretty much anything cheaper than IKEAs entry level is total garbage. I’m looking at you Target! That stuff is little better than a cardboard box. On the high end, price rapidly outpaces quality. Every time I think “maybe I’ll get real furniture…

I agree. The jump to “real” furniture is ridiculous. Suddenly the dinner table cost $3000. And if you try to find something in between there are the stores whose main selling point seem to be that they aren’t IKEA. Their prices are double and the quality is worse than IKEA.

Really? You can get some pretty decent solid wood stuff from places like CB2 in the $500-$1500 range for example: https://www.cb2.com/dining-tables/furniture/1

You can also order directly from places like etsy for other custom solid wood furniture around that price range: https://www.etsy.com/listing/268844007/mid-century-dining-ta...

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