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I think I found a Mac kernel bug?

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Re: I think I found a Mac kernel bug?

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Post by lixtra »

freehunter wrote: post #39
dang wrote: post #83

I've edited 'he' to 'she' in the two otherwise fine comments that made this mistake ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16251566 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16251562 ) and grouped several empty replies and one lame off-topic subthread under this one. It's rare that we do something like this (and I've emailed the author), but it seems fairer than to penalize their original posts, which were otherwise i…

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The parent has a point. She knows gender gender doesn’t matter. And the author of the article wouldn’t mind either.

Re: I think I found a Mac kernel bug?

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Post by tambourine_man »

st3fan wrote: post #28
madaxe_again wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Qualitatively, it feels like apple’s software quality has been on a slide for several years. What attracted me to move to Mac OS in the first place some 15 years ago was the sheer quality. It was thrilling to use a computer that Just Worked, with no BSODs or the endless dependency hell that was Linux at the time. It doesn’t feel like that any more, across either OSX or iOS - it feels fragile. Things crash, behaviours…

Thank goodness that Linux is consistent and has no bugs :-) Ubuntu still doesn't let me change my IP address to a static one via the UI and video drivers still crash or result in hours of googling and reading contradicting articles on how to change xorg.conf Software has bugs. Operating systems are hard. It doesn't matter where you will go, you will most likely deal with similar issues. Whether it be Linux, Windows o…

>Software has bugs. Operating systems are hard.

Sure, but it doesn't help when you are rewriting fundamental parts of the stack like the window server, for instance.

And I'm very glad that they did, the move to Metal shows they are committed to the Mac and not standing still. Just don't treat us as involuntary beta testers.

Re: I think I found a Mac kernel bug?

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Post by matthewmacleod »

freehunter wrote: post #39
dang wrote: post #83

I've edited 'he' to 'she' in the two otherwise fine comments that made this mistake ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16251566 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16251562 ) and grouped several empty replies and one lame off-topic subthread under this one. It's rare that we do something like this (and I've emailed the author), but it seems fairer than to penalize their original posts, which were otherwise i…

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Look, I don't particularly want this to degrade into a stupid pointless flame war, but getting this sort of thing right does matter.

Given the relative gender disparity in the technology field, it's easy to make the assumption that any given developer is a man – we all do it sometimes! It's useful to have that pointed out when we're wrong, so that we can be reminded that we sometimes make incorrect assumptions, and eventually it hopefully won't happen as much.

None of the comments along those lines have been needlessly faux-offended, or attacking anyone – just pointing out a mistake that it would be good to rectify. It's really not harming anyone :)

Re: I think I found a Mac kernel bug?

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Post by stevenh »

freehunter wrote: post #39
dang wrote: post #83

I've edited 'he' to 'she' in the two otherwise fine comments that made this mistake ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16251566 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16251562 ) and grouped several empty replies and one lame off-topic subthread under this one. It's rare that we do something like this (and I've emailed the author), but it seems fairer than to penalize their original posts, which were otherwise i…

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Failing to correct these people feels like a large step backward, though. We shouldn't let anyone get away with misgendering transgender women under any circumstances.

Re: I think I found a Mac kernel bug?

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Post by ascom »

wsc981 wrote: post #23
tambourine_man wrote: post #14

I think High Sierra is the worst Mac OS release yet. I’m sure there’s a cognitive bias partially to blame (since it’s the most recent) but it looks like we are way past that.

As long as we are talking about anecdotical evidence: my MBP with High Sierra has been running fine for the last few months. I haven't encountered any issues in my day-to-day work as iOS app developer and neither in my home use. I think it's a pretty decent release, though it didn't add any new features that I feel I really need.

Actually, my mid-2014 13" rMBP randomly reboots on High Sierra, even on a clean install. It leaves no trace of anything in any logs. I had to downgrade to Sierra.

Re: I think I found a Mac kernel bug?

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Post by teamhappy »

terminalcommand wrote: post #6
phreack wrote: post #2

It seems Apple just can't get a break these days. Has anyone checked if this bug is exclusive to High Sierra?

Htop also had segfaults after a while in OpenBSD 6.2 i386, when I used OpenBSD exclusively for a couple of weeks. It could also be present in other BSD-like kernels.

Htop segfaulting on OpenBSD doesn't show that the OpenBSD kernel has the same bug, it shows that htop has some (unrelated) memory management issues (OpenBSD is pretty good at exposing those).

Re: I think I found a Mac kernel bug?

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Post by Moto7451 »

djsumdog wrote: post #22

I immediately thought of the htop bug and then she references that in the article. How is this not fixed yet? Like, this is a security bug, right? You can DoS from a simple usermode app with this bug. Nothing official from Apple on this yet?

I don’t think the attack vector (presumably asking for admin credentials to install a startup item) would be any different than an app that wanted to fork bomb, allocate too much memory, or spin wait on all cores. In that way I don’t think it’s any more security critical than any other bug that hangs the system.

It’s definitely something that should be fixed of course.

Re: I think I found a Mac kernel bug?

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freehunter wrote: post #39
dang wrote: post #83

I've edited 'he' to 'she' in the two otherwise fine comments that made this mistake ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16251566 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16251562 ) and grouped several empty replies and one lame off-topic subthread under this one. It's rare that we do something like this (and I've emailed the author), but it seems fairer than to penalize their original posts, which were otherwise i…

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