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Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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Re: Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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I think this is the key part: Around the same time as PowerPoint was gaining popularity, middle management was becoming massively criticised, says Matthew Fuller, professor of cultural studies at Goldsmiths at the University of London. Fuller suggests there’s a connection: because PowerPoint let more people share their ideas, it exposed the failings of middle management and inadvertently led to an exodus of people fr…

My experience is that the best talks have useless slidedecks. That's because the decks support the talk and do not provide a foundation for the talk. Less good talks often use the deck as a documentation platform; in that case decks become much more useful for reading offline. The exception is when decks are commented heavily for people reading it offline. But I don't see this happening often. Usually, comments are u…

I tend to put my narrative / talking-points / take-aways in the Notes section so that I can print them out together with the slides themselves and leave them behind for the audience after the talk.

That way - I'm not reading the slides to the audience - and am able to create context for later readers without cluttering the slides with too much verbiage.

Most of my meaty slides have to do with process, charts of various data sets and maybe high level technical architectural concept-ware. Much of the narrative is often about context, relevance and impact: "so what?".

Re: Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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The problem with Powerpoint is that it is 'not the web'. So a great amount of resource goes into a deck of slides with the graphics department doing images, someone else getting reports and someone else editing the whole thing for the boss to present. There may actually be great things in this presentation, things that should be on the main website but they are not on the main website, they are only available in this…

The other problem with Powerpoint is that it enables the some of the worst professional behavior in us individually and in groups. Some people don't like to write. Some people don't like to read. Or read mail-outs before a meeting. And some people like to hide in endless meetings to appear as if they are busy (working), while they are just busy in endless meetings not working.

Many if not most 8~20 slide presentations could be more succinctly (and index-ably / search-ably) provided to the audience in a two-three page memo with a chart or diagram or two. Even a short white-paper might be nice to articulate a case for present and future audiences.

But at my current company - I give "lunch seminars" with powerpoint slide support on a repeat-cycle (periodically - because we're growing - there are always people who haven't seen it yet), because (from what I can tell), (some? many? most?) people can't be tossed to read a 4~5-page written summary of the topic. (Huge waste of company resources to support some lame-o trucculance in my mind - but I could be wrong)

EDIT: Please allow me to ask a question of the HN crowd. To me, if it were my company (and I have had a few with varied success), if an employee can not (or will not) read and can not (or will not) write in a structured format, in an organized way, and be prepared for meetings, before the meeting starts, by having read all of the relevant material -- is it the company's obligation to spoon-feed them? Or should the company get tight and move those people out the "Next!" door?

Re: Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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PowerPoint is a fantastic tool when used as designed - to create slide decks to provide assistive material for an in person presentation, or longer report. The issue is, most people don't use PowerPoint like that, rather than being assistive, it becomes the end result, so you end up with very complex material distilled down to a single slide, loosing much of its value and context - or worse, inscrutable diagrams and…

On the other hand, the slides i see from places like GDC and Siggraph are by themselves almost always good enough to be self contained (the presentations are certainly better but by making the slides usable by themselves you make them useful for a lot more people). As an example the main reason the last game i worked at had screen space decals was that i randomly read Pope Kim's SSD SIGGRAPH 2012 slides [1] which had…

Agreed. Some of the old SIGGRAPH course material like Baraff's PBM stuff[0] was simple/clear and stood on its own legs.

He didn't use the Notes section of PPT to print leave behinds (like my lazy own self does) - but took the time to interleave his talking points with his slides for the "leave-behind".

Karl Sims ... Same thing.

I still use some of the old SIGGRAPH material to teach/tutor my now university age kids how to create interesting projects (like the old x-springies) around numerical methods and creating little toy beginner physics engines.

[0] https://graphics.stanford.edu/courses/cs448b-00-winter/paper... (slides - including Witkin's are after the whitepaper-ish looking stuff at the front of the file)

Re: Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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Over the past two months at my job, I had the task to sift through our intranet, finding as it turns out mostly PowerPoint presentations and then sticking all of that information into a OneNote document.

Transfering information from one badly indexable, not deep-linkable and completely inappropriate documentation format to the next.

And then I was told to put the link to the OneNote document into a PowerPoint presentation, so that the PowerPoint with the link in it could be uploaded to the intranet.

Re: Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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Over the past two months at my job, I had the task to sift through our intranet, finding as it turns out mostly PowerPoint presentations and then sticking all of that information into a OneNote document. Transfering information from one badly indexable, not deep-linkable and completely inappropriate documentation format to the next. And then I was told to put the link to the OneNote document into a PowerPoint present…

what is your job?

Re: Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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Over the past two months at my job, I had the task to sift through our intranet, finding as it turns out mostly PowerPoint presentations and then sticking all of that information into a OneNote document. Transfering information from one badly indexable, not deep-linkable and completely inappropriate documentation format to the next. And then I was told to put the link to the OneNote document into a PowerPoint present…

what is your job?

PowerPoint Documentation Coordinator

Re: Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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I hate "PowerPoint", but what I really hate is bad meetings with the veneer of professionalism from having a presentation. I've wasted plenty of my life in such meetings (sometimes giving the presentation).

Of course, there were boring meetings and boring slides before PowerPoint. I'm old enough to remember professors using those transparent slides.

IMHO, things would go better if: * meetings had a clear objective, so you could tell what kind of information you might need to gather, share, or discuss to achieve it. * people focused on the story, not the document. I've found that most people seem to think that "writing presentation" == "preparing for the meeting", rather than being able to discuss the story without a presentation, and having it there to jog your memory and provide some visual aids. * we didn't ask presentations to work for both people in the meeting, and those who weren't there, but want to "see the presentation". These are totally different requirements to put on a document, and as a result, it's hard to do either one well.

I've given a ton of "read slide title and bullet point" presentations (sorry, humanity), and I wouldn't say I'm a master or anything now, but I know I can do the whole presentation without slides, and I might blow through 5 or more slides in a minute, just using each as a beat to make a specific point visually, and then I might spend 5 minutes on one slide, digging into more complex information.

The slide deck will not make sense to people who weren't there. ;-) But a 1-2 page set of notes can summarize it, which comes from preparing the story itself.

Re: Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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I don't get it. Powerpoint is literally perfect. There are no downsides. It's up to you to not overdo the designs and the animations. Personally, I always use the default theme (Black Calibri text on white background), with no animations or transitions. The included drawing tools are also world class, and help get your point across as long as you don't make it too complex.

Ideally, it's best practice to create two things: the powerpoint presentation that allows you to exhibit diagrams and charts that illustrate what you are saying, but then secondly a handout that puts in text what you've said, and includes the same diagrams. You speak your piece, using PPT to show diagrams only, not slide-after-slide of words (the words are coming from your mouth). That means the PPT as a handout is useless, and you have to create a separate 3 page (or so) text document that also includes the graphics.

That however is extra work - and a lot of extra time, and hardly anyone does it. The real culprit here is the "time saving shortcut" of simply printing out your PPT as a handout. In order to make it useful, you need the words on the slides. Now you've got slide-after-slide of bullet point lists and text, and that urges you to commit the second sin, which is turning your back to the audience and reading the slides from the stage.

To automatically to revert to good form, the trick is to realize there are three things: the words you speak, the images you project on the screen, and a handout that combines both. That allows PPT to revert to what it is truly good at, which is showing pictures on the screen.

But ... it's more work!

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