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Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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Moving from a country with no Ikea to a country with Ikea has been a paradigm shift for me, and I'm not sure it's entirely a good one.

It used to be that if I wanted furniture, I'd go to the second hand store, and look for some used furniture that fitted my purpose. If I couldn't find something that worked, then I'd look online, and then failing that, I'd buy it new.

I found some real gems at the second hand store. A desk I bought is going strong 5 years later (I gave it to a friend).

Now I don't even bother, I just go straight to Ikea. It's so cheap that there's no point in looking at second hand.

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

#32
I worked at Ikea for some time and it's quite amazing the possibilities you had as an employee pursuing a career within the company. Rather than them basing your performance on past studies and grades, you definitely had the possibility to pursue any role within the company as long as you had the "right" mentality and really wanted it. Just like any early-stage startup I've work with.

I was a lazy university student who just saw it as a part-time job though, just improving my economical situation for a bit but the few ideas I had was easily escalated and heard.

Kind of miss that place sometimes.

When it comes to Kamprads legacy, I do hope they open a fund with his pile of cash because for me, his legacy is stained by all the sketchy tax evasion schemes they've set up.

Rest in peace Ingvar.

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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Could you point out specifically where they are cutting corners? Their materials are cheap, but not particularly short-lived. The woodwork quality is second to none: never experienced jams, excess play or position mismatches on IKEA pieces.

The edge connectors are particularly troublesome and those are present in almost all their furniture making it next to impossible to disassemble a piece of furniture to move it to a new house. They are designed to be single use.

I see.

Perhaps it's a bigger problem if you try to move out of historic house with winding narrow stairs. Just moved houses here without disassembling anything but the largest pieces like sofa sets. All my furniture including IKEA pieces made it just fine.

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you point out specifically where they are cutting corners? Their materials are cheap, but not particularly short-lived. The woodwork quality is second to none: never experienced jams, excess play or position mismatches on IKEA pieces.

The edge connectors are particularly troublesome and those are present in almost all their furniture making it next to impossible to disassemble a piece of furniture to move it to a new house. They are designed to be single use.

I've disassembled and moved Ikea furniture multiple times. You have to be a bit careful, but it's certainly not impossible.

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

#35
This news also tops the consumer version of the IKEA swedish subsite. Kamprad was the most well known entrepneur in Sweden. He projected an image of himself as an every day man, even somewhat behind ("smådum") which he obviously was not. He considered the entire supply chain, including buying forests as supply for wood. With him gone, only future will tell if IKEA will be able to keep up its success.

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

#36
"Romania's brutal communist-era secret police received covert six-figure payments from Ikea as part of the Swedish group's deals with a local furniture manufacturer in the 1980s, according to documents obtained by the Guardian." - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/04/ikea-funds-rom...

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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Ikea has optimized the price and durability of an item to maximize utility for both the end user and the corp. People like getting new stuff for cheap and dont value resale or reuse. Ikea is an excellent machine for turning Borneo rain forest into landfill at the lowest price.

Ikea actually plans to become "forest positive": https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/ikea-sustai... The article is from 2012, not sure how far they progressed (true sustainability is difficult). I doubt they use any tropical wood though. Most of their wood supplies are already FSC certified.

Also worth pointing out that in the UK, the company now sends nothing to landfill itself (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/38636272/ikea-sustaina...). And in France, they will accept old Ikea furniture and resell it at low cost (https://www.climatesolutionsplatform.org/solution/giving-fur...)

There are a few things to attack the company on; I’m not sure sustainability is one of their weak points.

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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"In the later years of his life, Mr Kamprad had faced questions over his past links to the Nazis."

It's crazy how he ran Ikea for over 70 years but a quarter of the article deals with his ties to Nazis. Granted, he admits it was the "greatest mistake" of his life, so I suppose the attention to it may not be unwarranted. But I think it would have been prudent to touch on what caused him to shift his perspective. "Youthful stupidity" doesn't convey much.

Still, I can't help but feel like the information age is ushering in a modern-day version of the Akashic records. A double-edged sword anyone with an internet connection can consult. We laud past failures as learning experiences when it comes to startups, almost as if it's a badge of honor. But it's a very different story when someone violates a social contract, even in retrospect. (Albeit there are plenty of cases where people are embraced because of the drastic changes they made in their life, e.g. gang members that become speakers for at-risk youth.)

I think there's both a wisdom, and ignorance, of crowds/culture. And these crowds are constantly redrawing the line of who deserves redemption. Lately, the line seems to be inching in the wrong direction in my opinion.

With the advent of the internet it's scary to think about how efficiently the arbiters of information control the narrative. "We do not judge men by what they are in themselves, but by what they are relatively to us." -Madame Swetchine.

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The edge connectors are particularly troublesome and those are present in almost all their furniture making it next to impossible to disassemble a piece of furniture to move it to a new house. They are designed to be single use.

I've disassembled and moved Ikea furniture multiple times. You have to be a bit careful, but it's certainly not impossible.

Same here. I did not have to throw out furniture from Ikea yet, after having moved two times.

Re: Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died

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You obviously have never bought anything second hand. Ikea items are extremely popular and easy to sell used.

I visit the local garbage drop off a couple of times per year and the amount of Ikea stuff that gets dumped there is depressing. If you actually read the comment above you'd see that I do buy stuff second hand.

Maybe that speaks more about the culture where you live rather than ikea?

Your comment reads as if it was a new experience and that you've never tried ikea yourself.

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