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Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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Re: Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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I don't get it. Powerpoint is literally perfect. There are no downsides. It's up to you to not overdo the designs and the animations. Personally, I always use the default theme (Black Calibri text on white background), with no animations or transitions. The included drawing tools are also world class, and help get your point across as long as you don't make it too complex.

> I don't get it. Powerpoint is literally perfect. There are no downsides. It's up to you to not overdo the designs and the animations. Only if you can refrain from the Design tab, something that MS seems to emphasize with every update.

Oh yes. This.

I mean, if I'm looking at a presentation on some topic, I could't care less about what the author used as a tool, as long as it works properly.

But what some people inflict on others with their "designed" slides is just beyond cruel. And honestly: If there are people that can present complex algorithms on a black and white slideset - and there are astoundingly good presentations that do this! - you can keep it simple, too. No reason to use ugly pixelated (and stolen!) ClipArt, ugly background images that clash with the foreground etc. Yuck.

Re: Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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PowerPoint is a fantastic tool when used as designed - to create slide decks to provide assistive material for an in person presentation, or longer report. The issue is, most people don't use PowerPoint like that, rather than being assistive, it becomes the end result, so you end up with very complex material distilled down to a single slide, loosing much of its value and context - or worse, inscrutable diagrams and…

On the other hand, the slides i see from places like GDC and Siggraph are by themselves almost always good enough to be self contained (the presentations are certainly better but by making the slides usable by themselves you make them useful for a lot more people).

As an example the main reason the last game i worked at had screen space decals was that i randomly read Pope Kim's SSD SIGGRAPH 2012 slides [1] which had enough detail for me to create a quick prototype in the editor and toss around the artists. Considering how much the artists used SSDs all over the place, the slides being self contained certainly made a difference.

Personally, as someone who doesn't tend to visit conferences and instead prefers to read things from his computer (and watch on youtube too, but i still prefer to read than watch), i'd hate it if slides were reduced to just assistive material :-P.

[1] https://www.slideshare.net/blindrenderer/screen-space-decals...

Re: Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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PowerPoint is a fantastic tool when used as designed - to create slide decks to provide assistive material for an in person presentation, or longer report. The issue is, most people don't use PowerPoint like that, rather than being assistive, it becomes the end result, so you end up with very complex material distilled down to a single slide, loosing much of its value and context - or worse, inscrutable diagrams and…

I currently work at a large telecommunications corporation. This is exactly the situation, PowerPoint all the things. It’s infuriating. I wonder is it the same place. Ring a Bell?

I recently had a colleague, who fancies himself the master hacker, ask me how to edit a file on ‘this Linux thing’. I went over to his desk and he was copying shell commands from a PowerPoint presentation into PuTTY running on a Windows VM on his Mac. The mind boggles.

Re: Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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post #10

PowerPoint is a fantastic tool when used as designed - to create slide decks to provide assistive material for an in person presentation, or longer report. The issue is, most people don't use PowerPoint like that, rather than being assistive, it becomes the end result, so you end up with very complex material distilled down to a single slide, loosing much of its value and context - or worse, inscrutable diagrams and…

On the other hand, the slides i see from places like GDC and Siggraph are by themselves almost always good enough to be self contained (the presentations are certainly better but by making the slides usable by themselves you make them useful for a lot more people). As an example the main reason the last game i worked at had screen space decals was that i randomly read Pope Kim's SSD SIGGRAPH 2012 slides [1] which had…

That’s the rub. Pretty much none of the external decks I create are intended to be self-contained. They’re whatever I thought was best to support my talk. Now ideally there are speaker notes or a separate doocument that serves as backup. Of course, there often isn’t.

Re: Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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I think this is the key part:

Around the same time as PowerPoint was gaining popularity, middle management was becoming massively criticised, says Matthew Fuller, professor of cultural studies at Goldsmiths at the University of London. Fuller suggests there’s a connection: because PowerPoint let more people share their ideas, it exposed the failings of middle management and inadvertently led to an exodus of people from these roles, he says. “Perhaps their ideas could be seen for the trivia they were, to some extent.”

There's lots of hate for PowerPoint out there, but it's not really PowerPoint that people hate. PP is just a tool for arranging text and images in slide form, it's pretty anodyne. What people hate is the low quality Twitter-scale corporate thought that tends to find its natural home in slideware form (and only slideware).

Done well, slide decks can be awesome. They allow a quick read through of a presentation if you weren't able to attend the speech itself, or chose to skip it believing the additional spoken words wouldn't add much. They add colour to otherwise boring documents. When giving talks, they act as useful prompts to stop the speaker forgetting or accidentally skipping important points. Would Ed Miliband have so famously forgot to mention the UK government deficit in his key speech if he'd had a slide deck to jog his memory and keep him on track? Probably not.

Put the blame where it lies - on the vast ranks of people doing dubious non-jobs, people whose primary output is not well written essays arguing a strategy point but rather ppts that regurgitate cliches and groupthink in 12pt font, with the drawing of absurd diagrams acting as a substitute for actual work.

Re: Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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I don't get it. Powerpoint is literally perfect. There are no downsides. It's up to you to not overdo the designs and the animations. Personally, I always use the default theme (Black Calibri text on white background), with no animations or transitions. The included drawing tools are also world class, and help get your point across as long as you don't make it too complex.

>It's up to you to not overdo the designs and the animations

That's why I like LaTeX Beamer (at least as long as I don't need anything else in my presentation other than bullet point text and some math): in LaTeX, writing text and equations is relatively easy, but everything else (complicated animations? messing with the default style?) requires non-significant amount of work ... thus the presentations created with Beamer tend to be simple and beautiful.

Re: Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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I think this is the key part: Around the same time as PowerPoint was gaining popularity, middle management was becoming massively criticised, says Matthew Fuller, professor of cultural studies at Goldsmiths at the University of London. Fuller suggests there’s a connection: because PowerPoint let more people share their ideas, it exposed the failings of middle management and inadvertently led to an exodus of people fr…

My experience is that the best talks have useless slidedecks. That's because the decks support the talk and do not provide a foundation for the talk. Less good talks often use the deck as a documentation platform; in that case decks become much more useful for reading offline. The exception is when decks are commented heavily for people reading it offline. But I don't see this happening often. Usually, comments are used for the speaker to have some information ready when needed during the talk.

Re: Our love-hate relationship with PowerPoint

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I have a funny PowerPoint story.

I worked for hours putting together a presentation to the VPs and owners of the company.

To make it extra special I used background water marks from rainbow infrared scans of very hot equipment. With the transparency set to around 15%, each slide made a very appealing pastel presentation.

At the start of the presentation something went wrong because the software rev of the machine to present on was lower than the one I developed on.

All my water marks came out in full intensity. My presentation looked like an Andy Warhol psychedelic acid tripping fantasy.

My boss, on seeing the first slide, said roll with it, as he motioned with his hand, moving with a circular motion, because you know, time is money, and more importantly, the big bosses have no capacity for waiting on peons.

So side 1 wasn't so bad, but as each slide progressed, each infrared back ground became more and more intense. The CFO owner on each slide would grimace, reminding me of the kid in Home Alone, looking like he was pushed back in his chair by a stiff breeze.

The topic could be interesting to a processing engineering nerd, but under ordinary circumstances it would be lost on all but 2 others in the room. This presentation, however, is burned into the memory of everyone in the room. I am certain nobody remembers a thing I said, but they remember the trippy presentation by sTevo.

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