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Free Linux cloud shell for Gmail users

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Re: Free Linux cloud shell for Gmail users

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Post by sneak »

Last I looked, Cloud Shell was still pretty tiny instances, with no paid option for more (wth isn’t there a super boost mode that I pay for, at least?!), and the integrated editor was meh. I suppose I could use it with the gcloud CLI and docker-machine as a sort of orchestration console to bring up more boxes, but then I have to remember to kill them or I get a huge bill. (This has happened to me on DO before.)

AWS Cloud9 lets me pay for a single big honkin ec2 that backs the IDE, has a better editor, browser ssh support—and has a built in option to suspend the “expensive” instance after 30 mins of inactivity.

I loved Cloud Shell but the inability to let me pay for a bigger backing instance or more storage is a real limitation. (One of my commonly worked on projects takes 25 mins to compile on a boost mode Cloud Shell instance, and operates on ~80GiB of data.) Cloud9 is at a real advantage here.

Whoever first integrates Atom, though (all of these seem to use Ace), I think will be the real winner.

Re: Free Linux cloud shell for Gmail users

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Post by e12e »

thesandlord wrote: post #17
wklm wrote: post #9

can I ssh into it? does it have a public ip?

If you want a free Linux box with a Public IP and SSH, I'd recommend spinning up an f1-micro VM. It's part of the permanent free tier: https://cloud.google.com/free/ Cloud Shell is a "temporary" instance, really meant for interactive Dev/Admin work. (I work for GCP)

Thanks for taking the time to comment. I wasn't aware there was a free tier. I really appreciate that it's an actual free tier:

"Thanks for signing up for the 12-month free trial.

We've given you $300 in free trial credit to spend. If you run out of credit, don't worry, you won't be billed until you give your permission."

[ed: and as mentioned above there are instances that don't consume any of those 300 credits]

Re: Free Linux cloud shell for Gmail users

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Post by thesandlord »

e12e wrote: post #22
thesandlord wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want a free Linux box with a Public IP and SSH, I'd recommend spinning up an f1-micro VM. It's part of the permanent free tier: https://cloud.google.com/free/ Cloud Shell is a "temporary" instance, really meant for interactive Dev/Admin work. (I work for GCP)

Thanks for taking the time to comment. I wasn't aware there was a free tier. I really appreciate that it's an actual free tier: "Thanks for signing up for the 12-month free trial. We've given you $300 in free trial credit to spend. If you run out of credit, don't worry, you won't be billed until you give your permission." [ed: and as mentioned above there are instances that don't consume any of those 300 credits]

So there is the free trial and the free tier.

The free trial is $300 for 12 months that you can spend on pretty much anything (I think there are some limits on GPUs due to abuse).

The free tier is free forever, no dollar limits or time limits. This includes the 24/7 f1-micro, 28 App Engine hours per day, Cloud Datastore, Firebase stuff, some Cloud Functions, etc.

Re: Free Linux cloud shell for Gmail users

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Post by logicallee »

JorgeGT wrote: post #15
insomniacity wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recall there was a specific reason for this - does anyone else know why? Is Google working on the legal/tax implications of fixing it?

I believe it's individual VAT handling. They've solved it for EU citizens but for instance, about Russia, it still says [1]: "In Russia, Google Cloud Platform services can be used only for business purposes. Warning: If the sole purpose for which you want to use Google Cloud Platform services has no potential economic benefit you should discontinue your use of the service" It used to say the same thing about EU citiz…

To me the quoted sentence is pretty well-written:

>Warning: If the sole purpose for which you want to use Google Cloud Platform services has no potential economic benefit you should discontinue your use of the service"

To me this says: "Anything and everything can become a side project at any moment or be used to help support a business and therefore (in my opinion) everything can be thought of as a business or supporting a business. If there is no potential conceivable way to view anything you might ever do on the platform as conceivably pivoting into a startup or supporting a startup or any other business need in the future, or creating any economic (business) benefit then you should discontinue it. Everyone else can just say they might be a side project / pivot or be used as a business in the future, or used to support a business or otherwise produce value, since there is no way to show otherwise."

With this lens it makes perfect sense that if the SOLE purpose has NO potential (potential!!!) economic benefit (i.e. used to at least support a business or create value) then you should discontinue it. This warning applies basically to no one.

It's really an excellent sentence, I like it a lot.

Re: Free Linux cloud shell for Gmail users

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Post by jnbiche »

thesandlord wrote: post #4

(I work for Google Cloud) If you want to learn more about Cloud Shell, the marketing page is here: https://cloud.google.com/shell/ Cloud Shell is one of my favorite things about GCP. A lot of dev tools (Docker, Python/Go/Node/Ruby/Java/.Net, etc) are pre-installed, you can test "localhost" servers with the preview feature, there is a built in file editor (based on the open source Orion project), etc. And it's all fre…

Thanks for the summary of Cloud Shell, I was not previously aware of it.

Any idea why Apache and Gradle are installed in the root directory? Normally, these would be in `opt` or some such.

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