Conclusion: If you keep any cryptocurrency on an exchange or online service that can or is capable of controlling your private keys - MOVE all your cryptos to your own deterministic wallet YESTERDAY!
I would have had Bitcoin at a much more opportune time if I could have gotten Armory to work. The idea that one must download the entire blockchain makes maintaining a wallet very difficult for some, esp. if the wallet software doesn't accept the data at the end of the dozens+GB download.
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#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's still impossible to have a decentralized exchange convert between USD and a coin. XEM (the coin that was stolen) doesn't have plans to implement 0x, but there are other plans for decentralized exchange.
Why not? By using a usd-token like usdt it become possible. Bitshare usd also has been very stable lately and it is fully decentralized.
Re: Tokyo-based cryptocurrency exchange hacked, losing $530M: NHK
#243Posting this as a top level comment as well (probably a better idea): The coins stolen are XEM ( https://nem.io/ ) not Bitcoin. They're currently tracking the stolen coins to ensure they are not sold. Preliminary evidence suggests that it was a private key stolen and not a network problem. Disclaimer: Am somewhat associated with the team, and I hold a small amount of XEM. Feel free to ask questions.
Genuinely curious: How do you know a private key is stolen with a cryptocurrency? Is there some sort of secondary proof mechanism?
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#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
NEM (the cryptocurrency that was stolen) isn't decentralized.
Why not using a web site built on postgres or mysql database to track balances then, instead of using blockchain and call the thing "cryptocurrency"?
You can think of this as a "coin" that's pegged against prevailing currency (in my case, the yen). It's not a "cryptocoin" since there is no "crypto" involved, but as there is barely any "crypto" involved in cryptocoins anyway, I think that's a bit of a moot point.
There are problems with this model. First you have to trust the central authority with your money. They could do a runner and there would be nothing you could do about it. In fact, when I lived in the UK, I discovered that London Transport often mischarges - it forgets where you "tapped in" or "tapped out" and charges you the maximum possible charge for your journey. In order to get your money back, you have to register your card and apply within a specific time period to get refunded. If you don't know the procedure, don't want to give out your person information, don't realise you were mischarged or wait too long -- sorry, your money is gone (Really big piece of advice for anyone using an Oyster card: Register it and check the charges every day. Unless things have gotten better in the last few years, I'm sure you will be extremely surprised at the charges).
The problem here is that the payment processor has all the power in the transaction. They can just take your money if they feel like it. Also, they can refuse to pay for things if they feel like it. Finally, they are a single point of failure. If they have technical (or financial!) problems, then you may not be able to spend your money.
Whether or not you assume initiatives like Bitcoin were started as a scam, the implementation potentially solves a lot of the problems of these payment processors. Importantly, if you put your coins in a central exchange you are right back to square one! No amount of crypto goodness will save you from the exchange shenanigans because they control your wallet.
This is why things like the Lightning Network are interesting. It allows for centralised payment processors, but with distributed guarantees about who owns the coins and where and when they can spend them.
I find it incredibly unfortunate that "cryptocoins" endure such incredible hype and involve so much real (and imagined) money. So many power plays, so many scams, so much FUD. But at the centre of it, these are interesting real problems. Once the dust settles it will be quite nice to see what useful results actually emerge.
Re: Tokyo-based cryptocurrency exchange hacked, losing $530M: NHK
#245Posting this as a top level comment as well (probably a better idea): The coins stolen are XEM ( https://nem.io/ ) not Bitcoin. They're currently tracking the stolen coins to ensure they are not sold. Preliminary evidence suggests that it was a private key stolen and not a network problem. Disclaimer: Am somewhat associated with the team, and I hold a small amount of XEM. Feel free to ask questions.
Sorry, do you have a source for any of your claims?
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#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have any links or citations for a number even close to that? It’s live viewership numbers are lower than current HBO shows like Westworld that don’t overall get 30M viewers per episode. Or did you have a different meaning for 30M than per episode? Usually that’s what people mean for tv so I am assuming that.
According to wikipedia the peak viewing for individual episodes is about 4m. Although it's not a stretch to assume it reached a lot more people than that via legal streaming services and illegal downloads.
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#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
The possibility of an exchange getting hacked is much lower than the possibility of users losing founds by transferring them to their own wallet. I run a cryptocurrency forum and in 99% of reported cases users lost their founds by moving money from an exchange to a local wallet or even a hardware wallet. I always recommend everyone to keep it on an exchange.
Honest question. How is this possible? Isn't it as simple as copy and pasting the public address?
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#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you definitively could make something like Keybase on Bitcoin, by using multiple third-party institutions (chosen by the user) as a fallback. When sending coins to your storage address, you'd say "anyone can use this money if they have this private key OR if they get a digitally-signed certificate from 3 out of 4 of these keys (A, B, C, D)". Those keys could belong to different institutions (or persons) that…
Too bad Bitcoin uses ECDSA instead of Ed25519 (or any other signature algorithm supporting threshold signatures). With threshold signatures, you don't even need something in the wallet saying "any N of the following M", you could just give secret shares to those M parties, and any N of them could collaborate to sign something using your single public key.
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#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have any links or citations for a number even close to that? It’s live viewership numbers are lower than current HBO shows like Westworld that don’t overall get 30M viewers per episode. Or did you have a different meaning for 30M than per episode? Usually that’s what people mean for tv so I am assuming that.
According to wikipedia the peak viewing for individual episodes is about 4m. Although it's not a stretch to assume it reached a lot more people than that via legal streaming services and illegal downloads.
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#250They are tainting the stolen coins to avoid them to be sold. What’s the point of having a decentralized currency if a centralized entity make the decisions anyway at the end of day?