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Re: Extensions in Firefox 59

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Post by rrix2 »

hartator wrote: post #39
nathcd wrote: post #33

I have a tangential question for anyone who might know more about tab stuff than me. Awhile ago, I looked into making Firefox not do any tab management. Basically, always have one tab per window, middle click always opens a new window, normal click always opens a page in the current tab. (I'd like to do tab management with my window manager instead of browser so I can have a consistent tabbing interface across all of…

Interesting. What do you use for tab management on the OS level?

Probably a tiling window manager

Re: Extensions in Firefox 59

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Post by kibwen »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #40
kibwen wrote: post #4

Happy to see that Mozilla was serious about their intentions to extend the WebExtensions API in post-57 Firefox. I'm also happily surprised at the section about user notification of extension overrides; having a nice UI for this sort of thing is a difficult yet worthwhile problem (and I'm also a big fan of the new Preferences tab in general, it works far better than the old popup window). Hopefully some of this will…

It's funny that vimperator is mentioned every single time Firefox extensions are brought up on HN even though it only has about 11,000 users out of the hundreds of millions that use Firefox.

In my defense, one of my own housemates is one of those who has refused to update for want of vimperator. :P

Re: Extensions in Firefox 59

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Post by scrollaway »

floatboth wrote: post #31
scrollaway wrote: post #27

Anyone working on this reading the thread? Can we ever expect an extension that will allow the far better tab management that Chrome has? Namely: Being able to scroll between tabs with the scroll wheel, and being able to select multiple tabs with shift/ctrl to drag them/merge them/close them/etc. It's crazy to me that Firefox's original selling point was tab management, and today Chrome's is so much better.

I think you could always scroll between tabs with the wheel in Firefox? TIL about ctrl selection in Chrome. I bet most people didn't know that either.

You used to be able to, yeah. Then they switched to gtk3 I believe and that went away.

Re: Extensions in Firefox 59

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Post by scrollaway »

zbraniecki wrote: post #38
scrollaway wrote: post #27

Anyone working on this reading the thread? Can we ever expect an extension that will allow the far better tab management that Chrome has? Namely: Being able to scroll between tabs with the scroll wheel, and being able to select multiple tabs with shift/ctrl to drag them/merge them/close them/etc. It's crazy to me that Firefox's original selling point was tab management, and today Chrome's is so much better.

There's a bug filed to allow for multitab operations and it got assigned not long ago - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=566510 I doubt it'll be in Fx60, but maybe son after? :)

Sweet! Thanks for that heads up. It really is one of the things I miss the most from chrome.

Re: Extensions in Firefox 59

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Post by msujaws »

scrollaway wrote: post #27

Anyone working on this reading the thread? Can we ever expect an extension that will allow the far better tab management that Chrome has? Namely: Being able to scroll between tabs with the scroll wheel, and being able to select multiple tabs with shift/ctrl to drag them/merge them/close them/etc. It's crazy to me that Firefox's original selling point was tab management, and today Chrome's is so much better.

I am the project mentor for the Google Summer of Code project to implement multi-select tabs.

See the bottom of the table at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode18 for more info and please apply if you want to see this added to Firefox! :)

Re: Extensions in Firefox 59

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Post by Macha »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #40
kibwen wrote: post #4

Happy to see that Mozilla was serious about their intentions to extend the WebExtensions API in post-57 Firefox. I'm also happily surprised at the section about user notification of extension overrides; having a nice UI for this sort of thing is a difficult yet worthwhile problem (and I'm also a big fan of the new Preferences tab in general, it works far better than the old popup window). Hopefully some of this will…

It's funny that vimperator is mentioned every single time Firefox extensions are brought up on HN even though it only has about 11,000 users out of the hundreds of millions that use Firefox.

(a) It's dispoprotionately used among the tech audience.

(b) Users went back and forth between than and pentadactyl for a while, and both have the same issues in a webextension world

(c) There are more people who would like to use it but may not have due to the instability.

Re: Extensions in Firefox 59

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Post by throwaway8231 »

nathcd wrote: post #33

I have a tangential question for anyone who might know more about tab stuff than me. Awhile ago, I looked into making Firefox not do any tab management. Basically, always have one tab per window, middle click always opens a new window, normal click always opens a page in the current tab. (I'd like to do tab management with my window manager instead of browser so I can have a consistent tabbing interface across all of…

You might be interested in uzbl: https://www.uzbl.org/

Re: Extensions in Firefox 59

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Post by fenwick67 »

pfraze wrote: post #13
npongratz wrote: post #3

I find this pretty exciting for (hopefully; someday) wider adoption of alternative protocols: Starting with Firefox 59, several protocols that support decentralized architectures are available for use by extensions. The white-listed protocols are: + Dat Project (dat://) + IPFS (dweb:// ipfs:// ipns://) + Secure Scuttlebutt (ssb://)

Yeah this is pretty great. AFAIK it's limited to only redirecting to a handler website, but that's a big step forward for using these protocols in links and etc. We're still hoping to get full protocol-handling with an API similar to https://github.com/electron/electron/blob/v1.8.2-beta.3/docs...

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it sounds like they've made it so you can develop a webextension that handles DAT:// or IPFS:// URLs. They didn't make IPFS:// URLs redirect to http://ipfs.io/ipfs/$hash.

Re: Extensions in Firefox 59

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Post by carussell »

nathcd wrote: post #33

I have a tangential question for anyone who might know more about tab stuff than me. Awhile ago, I looked into making Firefox not do any tab management. Basically, always have one tab per window, middle click always opens a new window, normal click always opens a page in the current tab. (I'd like to do tab management with my window manager instead of browser so I can have a consistent tabbing interface across all of…

> Am I missing something

You're not. This was one of jwz's big complaints when he wrote about why he doesn't use Firefox[1] several years back, and nobody has ever fixed it.

1. https://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/04/why-i-use-safari-instead-of...

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