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They started investigating the group in 2014 but the hacking continued up through the election.
But if they knew it was going on it can hardly have been relevant for the election.
This revelation brings a lot of things into focus for me. One, is that it finally sheds light onto that very large and disruptive attack on State Dept back in 2014. It was assumed it was a state actor, and now we know it was Russia. Secondly is how important our allies are in this new era of clandestine cyber-warfare. Who knows how much damage that attack could've done without AIVD's assistance. Third is that allied…
You have no idea how much damage the Trump administration has done to America's relations abroad.
Even if they pretend they aren't.
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But if they knew it was going on it can hardly have been relevant for the election.
That is a leap in logic the article does not make. How did you come to that conclusion?
If the CIA and NSA were aware of this going on, unless they are outright incompetent and Obama didn't care then they must have known all along that they were being broken into.
Apparently Dutch intel had pretty deep access into the Russian systems. Going so far as even screenshotting people's faces as they appear on their security cameras. Read this article; an in depth analasys directly from source.: https://www.volkskrant.nl/media/dutch-agencies-provide-cruci... Seriously, everyone here will find this a fascinating read. It's almost like a thriller. From the article: Using so-called comma…
Is he just lying in the worst attempt to cover ass, or is he actually just that bad at his job?
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You have no idea how much damage the Trump administration has done to America's relations abroad.
I am reasonably sure that most Americans you'd talk you somewhere like HN are aware. Even if they pretend they aren't.
But all this doesn't matter as long as average citizens vote as they vote, while still thinking US is the best place in the world, beacon of democracy and whatnot.
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That is a leap in logic the article does not make. How did you come to that conclusion?
I am not saying the article is saying that. I am simply wondering why it's been tied to the election then. If the CIA and NSA were aware of this going on, unless they are outright incompetent and Obama didn't care then they must have known all along that they were being broken into.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell informed Obama that if he did carry out the alert that he would cry partisan politics and interference in the election by the sitting administration.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-mcconnell-wanted-no-part-...
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/12/why-d...
This revelation brings a lot of things into focus for me. One, is that it finally sheds light onto that very large and disruptive attack on State Dept back in 2014. It was assumed it was a state actor, and now we know it was Russia. Secondly is how important our allies are in this new era of clandestine cyber-warfare. Who knows how much damage that attack could've done without AIVD's assistance. Third is that allied…
You have no idea how much damage the Trump administration has done to America's relations abroad.
I think the political instability of the US will create strategic opportunities for other nations like China to fill, not to mention that it will reduce America's persuasiveness on all sorts of global matters.
Trust is an enormously valuable thing that is often undervalued until it is gone. Unfortunately I think the loss of trust others have in the United States (which didn't start with Trump) is going to create major difficulties for some time to come.
I do however think that once this situation is put to rest, our strongest alliances will hold, and hopefully we can start behaving like a trusted partner again.
Apparently Dutch intel had pretty deep access into the Russian systems. Going so far as even screenshotting people's faces as they appear on their security cameras. Read this article; an in depth analasys directly from source.: https://www.volkskrant.nl/media/dutch-agencies-provide-cruci... Seriously, everyone here will find this a fascinating read. It's almost like a thriller. From the article: Using so-called comma…
I'm actually impressed by our AIVD. Being Dutch, I always assumed our intelligence service were sheep in a world of wild animals; SAP consultants among elite hackers. This shows I was wrong, they seem to be actually competent and doing good work. Maybe I'll even rethink my opinion on the dragnet surveillance law that we will be voting on...
I wouldn't be surprised if the upcoming referendum on that dragnet law has something to do with this news coming out now.
Or I'm guessing there were multiple hacks?
"AIVD director Bertholee stated that he is extra careful when it comes to sharing intelligence with the U.S., now that Donald Trump is President."
The mere fact that Trump is president is harming US security. And the head of Dutch intelligence is willing to say so publicly. That is pretty striking.