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Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by stuaxo »

scoggs wrote: post #429
DrScump wrote: post #403

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"...having to wait in a line to submit or retrieve your phone, be sequestered to a penned in area to use your phone, and then to have to wait in line again to put your phone back into that "prison" system again..." The vast majority of the time consumed in that process is simply getting out from where you sit/stand and back, which is the same in the "unjailed" phone scenario. Unless, of course, you were just going to…

I'm thinking about how annoying this would be at any sort of venue or music event. Someone said prior the main reason they'd use their phone in that situation is to group up with others they came with or met there if they get split up. I can empathize with that 150% and feel that, as someone who will never do more than snap a quick photo of a musical act for nostalgic purposes, the system in place to leave your phone…

Phones aren't even that good in gigs for grouping up, vs just walking around.

A lot of the time your mates aren't looking at the phone at the right time, or there are so many people that you don't get good reception. Looking up and just finding people works pretty well.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by stuaxo »

Theodores wrote: post #442
CUViper wrote: post #246

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Part of my human experience may include checking how the babysitter is doing with the kids. I'm not going to do that in a way that disrupts the show, but I still want that access.

I spent my whole teenage babysitting, half a dozen regular gigs and also for families in holiday homes. Not once was there a situation where I needed to call the parents or vice-versa. I suppose they have guns in America so maybe you do need to worry about the kids being SWAT raided or kidnapped. However, the general idea is that the parents go out, drink loads of alcohol and come back around 3 a.m. to be hungover th…

No idea why you are downvoted for this.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by dvcrn »

In Asia (Japan) it is very normal that phones are forbidden at concerts. You are being warned first and if you take it out again to snap a picture for example, they'll boot you out.

But here it's AFAIK more for the reason of selling a exclusive concert DVD after the event is over.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by stuaxo »

loeg wrote: post #297
foolfoolz wrote: post #210

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i think the whole point is not being able to check your phone adds to the human experience

Checking phones is part of the human experience.

You can do that outside of a gig.

Why not give your full attention to the music.

Social media should have a health warning, we will look back at this era in the same way as we look at the pervasiveness of smoking in the 1950s.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by stuaxo »

loeg wrote: post #354
to_bpr wrote: post #314

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Compulsive, addiction driven behaviour due to the gamification of apps and basic services? I say let's remove that from our experience.

You're free to make your own choices, but not to inflect them on others.

Someone holding up their large, very bright screen between me and the musicians absolutely is inflicting their choice on me.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by sclangdon »

titzer wrote: post #467
aerovistae wrote: post #443

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Don't be ridiculous. Fear of terrorism is not the only factor. Cellphones are one of the past century's greatest contributions to public safety. If you want to be antagonistic about the threat of a bombing, how about a more commonplace example: you're a very drunk young girl who's been separated from her friends at the concert and a pushy, aggressive guy you don't know is trying to get you into his car to go home wit…

> Or how about this? > Or how about this? > Don't act like cellphones have no practical use sigh Humans have survived for hundreds of thousands of years without cellphones. For any new tech, you can continually imagine scenarios where survival "absolutely depends on" having this tech. How about this? You're sitting in your ISS sleep capsule and suddenly the station starts to depressurize. You hop into your reentry-sa…

sigh, you are not the Human race. Yes, Humans as a race have survived without cellphones, but that doesn't mean for an instance that the same applies to individuals.

You can't simply brush aside the parent's comments because you don't agree with them. A potential rape situation, or a lost and frightened child are very valid, and very real examples of how having a phone could help.

> Cellphones have made people into helpless, scared sheep.

You realise that people can be scared and helpless without being sheep, right? You also realise that simply being able to contact someone can remove the fear and helpnessness?

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by baby »

davb wrote: post #87

I experienced the Yondr phone prison last night for the first time (at a Chris Rock show). While I detest people being disruptive with their phones, I don’t think this is the right solution. From a practical standpoint, it took a lot longer to get into and out of the venue when phones had to be locked up. Checking your phone when you pop out to the toilet meant waiting in a queue to have your phone unlocked, and bein…

Wow. I guess you really became a slave to this tool. Do you remember a few years back none of us were using one :)

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by ThomPete »

davb wrote: post #87

I experienced the Yondr phone prison last night for the first time (at a Chris Rock show). While I detest people being disruptive with their phones, I don’t think this is the right solution. From a practical standpoint, it took a lot longer to get into and out of the venue when phones had to be locked up. Checking your phone when you pop out to the toilet meant waiting in a queue to have your phone unlocked, and bein…

Have you ever wondered if they just want you to have a different experience? There are restaurants that require you to eat in pitch black, restaurants where you cant wear sandals, there are shows where you get polaroid cameras and so on.

This is not about not treating people like adults but about what experience you want to give them.

I fail to see what terrorist attacks have to do with anything.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by aembleton »

stryk wrote: post #428
toomuchtodo wrote: post #365

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I appreciate the lengths Trent Reznor is willing to go in order for his fans to enjoy his peformances.

I was lucky enough to win tickets to a NIN concert from a radio station call-in in the late 1990's or early 2000's (it was around the time the "God is dead and no one cares" song was all the rage). These tickets included access to the soundcheck. I went and saw Trent Reznor with a walkie-talkie going seat-to-seat-to-seat in the venue (and this was a 6k+ seat venue, not counting standing-only areas which he visited as…

6000*15s = 25 hours. Really?

I can understand him checking every couple of rows in each stand or something. For example, every 100 seats but not each seat.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by ThomPete »

kbenson wrote: post #417
foolfoolz wrote: post #210

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i think the whole point is not being able to check your phone adds to the human experience

I think the counterpoint is that for some people, the more human experience is not a selling point, and actually a fairly large negative. Beyond the points laid out before, I have multiple children and multiple pets, and I'm the some person responsible for the technology stack at my small company which (means I'm on call for somewhat infrequent but not unheard of issues). Not being allowed my phone might just mean "e…

Then perhaps that show isn't for them.
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