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Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #420
narrator wrote: post #387

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How did the world even work before cell phones? Meeting your friends: You made plans to meet at a certain time and place and you showed up when you were supposed to or you carpooled. In an Emergency: you'll find out what happened to your friends eventually when you meet at school or call each other then next day. You aren't emergency service personnel. You just need to evacuate. Going to the bathroom: you go to the b…

Turns out life also worked before electricity, but for some reason, if you were to advocate for people to live without it, most people would consider you a lunatic and luddite.

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Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by musage »

2bitencryption wrote: post #404
musage wrote: post #398

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> They're your children -- you're going to want to call and check to see how things are going. If you think that's "obvious", then explain why. Because as you put it, it's just false, not everybody does that. Not every kid would stand for it, either. For one because the competence of a babysitter includes handling emergencies, making the practical use of randomly "checking in" (from some remote location) moot, but wh…

> not everybody does that. Not every kid would stand for it, either. I see we're dealing with a tough kid here

Anything you care to actually address? Lots a clicks, the only words are unintentionally ironic. How come? I mean, at least it's picture perfect, down to how you're not dealing with what I said, and comfort yourself about it. The less of you get that the more there is for me.

Jealous because you didn't turn around sophistry on adults even as a little one? Not a very intelligent and lively childhood followed by an adulthood doomed to cowardice, is that it? No parents who treated you as a person so you never felt the need to conform to abusive adults? Or just didn't happen to have the mental strength to go along with that?

But of course, I can't be personal in response to a personal attack, how dare I. My original comment was horribly wrong for reasons so foul they can't even be pointed out, but your ankle biting reply to it is just fine, heh.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by arkades »

JanecekPetr wrote: post #379

Mister White follows up on his ideas, but this seems to be unnecessary, at least from what I saw at his concert in Prague, Czech Republic, last year. Before the show one of his crewmen said to all the people to keep their phones in the pockets, that the show will be profesionally photographed and the photos will be on the official Jack White site for everyone to download. This helped immensely, and I'd guess 95 % of…

> Mister White follows up on his ideas, but this seems to be unnecessary, at least from what I saw at his concert in Prague, Czech Republic, last year.

Mister White attended a few more Jack White concerts than you did, and appears to disagree.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by stryk »

Angostura wrote: post #352
dragonwriter wrote: post #317

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> Our parents didn't have that luxury Yes, they did; before ubiquitous cellphones killed demand for them, basically every public place of any size (and many small ones, and even just public streets ) had banks of payphones, and for many kinds of outings people would leave the phone number of the restaurant or other establishment that they were going to for emergency contact in the other direction. The last generation…

People really didn't go to a phonebox to phone the babysitter, though.

Umm, yea, yea they did. All the time. It was extremely common during those days for an adult at a public gathering or social function to excuse themselves while saying "I've got to go call and check on the kids" -- it was expected and understood.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by gsich »

Spivak wrote: post #388
nicky0 wrote: post #331

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Because it is pathetic. You're available for work while at a Chris Rock show?

You've never worked a job where you might be called in during an emergency? We're in a forum full of sysadmins and devops people and this idea is foreign?

Sysadmins and devops people usually have a standby rotation.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by gsich »

loeg wrote: post #354
to_bpr wrote: post #314

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Compulsive, addiction driven behaviour due to the gamification of apps and basic services? I say let's remove that from our experience.

You're free to make your own choices, but not to inflect them on others.

Which is fine. You are not forced to visit a concert where you can't use your phone all the time. It's a decision from the venue host.

I don't think it is socially accepted to use your phone in the cinema/opera/theatre either, so why should concerts be any different?

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by acchow »

davb wrote: post #87

I experienced the Yondr phone prison last night for the first time (at a Chris Rock show). While I detest people being disruptive with their phones, I don’t think this is the right solution. From a practical standpoint, it took a lot longer to get into and out of the venue when phones had to be locked up. Checking your phone when you pop out to the toilet meant waiting in a queue to have your phone unlocked, and bein…

> I think the solution is to simply enforce a strict “no phones during the performance” policy. Treat people like adults. If they break the rules, ask them to leave.

This is precisely how it's done every night at Output in Brooklyn.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by stryk »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #365
komali2 wrote: post #288

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It was in San Jose last year sometime, don't remember the details, sorry :/

I appreciate the lengths Trent Reznor is willing to go in order for his fans to enjoy his peformances.

I was lucky enough to win tickets to a NIN concert from a radio station call-in in the late 1990's or early 2000's (it was around the time the "God is dead and no one cares" song was all the rage). These tickets included access to the soundcheck. I went and saw Trent Reznor with a walkie-talkie going seat-to-seat-to-seat in the venue (and this was a 6k+ seat venue, not counting standing-only areas which he visited as well). At each seat he would have his audio techs play ~15 seconds of a test track (i think it was the Dolby sound samples) and then radio in and have his crew adjust whatever sounded off to him then immediately move on to the next seat. Quite some time later I saw Bono from U2 getting some press for doing the same thing at his shows and always wondered if he learned that from Nine Inch Nails. That show was fucking bonkers too, NIN had a really cool light/laser show going on during the show.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by scoggs »

DrScump wrote: post #403
scoggs wrote: post #394

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No, not really. If someone goes out for drinks, then dinner, then a show and the night is going really well maybe the parents want to call and check in. They want to see how the nights going for the babysitter and kid. Are the kids asleep? Is the babysitter content to make some more money for a few extra hours? I think that's all entirely reasonable. It really has little to do with the matter at hand but having to wa…

"...having to wait in a line to submit or retrieve your phone, be sequestered to a penned in area to use your phone, and then to have to wait in line again to put your phone back into that "prison" system again..." The vast majority of the time consumed in that process is simply getting out from where you sit/stand and back, which is the same in the "unjailed" phone scenario. Unless, of course, you were just going to…

I'm thinking about how annoying this would be at any sort of venue or music event. Someone said prior the main reason they'd use their phone in that situation is to group up with others they came with or met there if they get split up. I can empathize with that 150% and feel that, as someone who will never do more than snap a quick photo of a musical act for nostalgic purposes, the system in place to leave your phone locked up like coat check is mostly just annoying.

It all reminds me of DRM causing problems for legitimate, paying customers when the DRM should only be targeting those who go outside of the rules. That's where someone else's comment about treating everyone like adults and kicking people out who break the rules seems like the best bet, although they also admitted (and I agree) that this system just doesn't work as needed, either.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by hellbanner »

ken wrote: post #189
davb wrote: post #87

I experienced the Yondr phone prison last night for the first time (at a Chris Rock show). While I detest people being disruptive with their phones, I don’t think this is the right solution. From a practical standpoint, it took a lot longer to get into and out of the venue when phones had to be locked up. Checking your phone when you pop out to the toilet meant waiting in a queue to have your phone unlocked, and bein…

I think the viscerality of this response is fascinating. Putting your phone in a case is a "prison", and you must check it every time you go to the toilet, and you're concerned about a terrorist attack -- enough to want your phone, but not enough to stay home, as if your apps could somehow save you. > Treat people like adults. If they break the rules, ask them to leave. Isn't that what we've been trying for the past…

Alamo Drafthouse does this consistently without a problem.

http://www.ent13.com/entertainment/movies/alamo-drafthouse-m...

Cell phone use = kicked out, banned forever. No oddly spelled startup needed.

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