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Re: Waze Carpool

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A few other similar services http://libretaxi.org most of it open source except dependency on telegram http://www.twogo.com by SAP For young adults hopskipdrive.com ridezum.com zemcar.com One thing to note is that there are two apps you need from waze.The waze app is for driver of the carpool.Carpool app is for the rider.

I think you're missing Scoop.

Thanks for the shout joncrane :)

Re: Waze Carpool

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I use this (and Scoop) in the Bay Area. It's slower and requires some decorum. A 25-minute trip may take, including waiting, 45. And a ride I might have spent on the phone or napping requires, at the very least, respectful silence. On the plus side, it's far cheaper (three or four dollars versus $10 for Line/Pool and $20 for X/Line). And conversations with drivers are usually quite delightful. On the latter, I am mix…

One of the things we've found most exciting about matching carpoolers together is the organic way in which people from totally different backgrounds (genders, ethnicities, nationalities, professions) get paired up on a simple ride to work.

After all, carpooling, when done right, really starts with just basic geography - who is near you, and who is not.

We've seen incredible stories of the people we're connecting - from job advice to new tennis partners -- and even consolation over lost loved ones. One of the beautiful things of that type of community (that we think we have with Scoop) is it's an unexpected forcing function to look outside your normal bubble - which seems harder and harder to come by these days.

Re: Waze Carpool

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The really big difference between Waze Carpool and Uber/Lyft is that the driver is paid at most 54 cents a mile (e.g., gas money), and Waze will only match the driver with passengers for two trips / day. So it is not designed to be something where the driver will make a living, but really just as a way for a driver to get some company, maybe take advantage of the HOV lanes, and it gets some cars off of the road to re…

This isn't something new. Scoop is already doing this and Lyft had carpool for a while before they shut it down.

Re: Waze Carpool

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post #318

The really big difference between Waze Carpool and Uber/Lyft is that the driver is paid at most 54 cents a mile (e.g., gas money), and Waze will only match the driver with passengers for two trips / day. So it is not designed to be something where the driver will make a living, but really just as a way for a driver to get some company, maybe take advantage of the HOV lanes, and it gets some cars off of the road to re…

This point is dead-on and the key distinction between ridesharing (or really, ride-hailing) and carpooling.

With Scoop, for example, all the people who Driver are just everyday folks. They're commuters like you, me, and the Riders they get matched up with. The economic incentives are like a bonus - where the real value is the improved time in the car and the time savings from the carpool lane (where applicable). And of course, other benefits around sustainability and parking that really impact and motivate some commuters.

Re: Waze Carpool

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The reason why I would not consider Google to legitimately compete with Uber/Lyft at scale in this arena is because it's not part of their nature to staff customer support at the level required to run operationally-intensive businesses. The rate in which something goes wrong in the real world (esp where money in exchanged) is much higher than in a pure software world, and Google is going to try to take the FAQ/chatbo…

What we've learned most at Scoop is that this is all about human experience. Commuters are regular people with regular, complicated lives - they have family obligations, schedules, meetings, work priorities, personal desires. Having accessible, thoughtful support is, to us, a critical part of that experience.

We believe that software can certainly scale your support efforts and solve a lot of the core problems / answer a lot of the questions. But commuting is an everyday, twice-a-day activity and having a place to go for questions and needs is natural.

Re: Waze Carpool

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Google is absolutely not responsible for the rapes and muggings perpetrated by users of Adwords or Waze. If you or a family member used Waze Carpool, and got raped or murdered, are you going to sit there quietly and say "oh well, not Google's fault"? As a engineer providing a software solution, it's great to sit in an office desk and say "there are precise legal limits", it's exact, precise, formal, and correct. Lik…

Could ask the same question to an auto engineer who's relative dies in a car crash. Should he quit his job, should we ban cars? While auto safety is important, cars save much more lives than they take - and the economic opportunities they enable drastically change the median quality of life in societies where they are used. In the same way, carsharing is not an enabler of crime, it's much safer than hitchhiking and w…

Yes but if your relative dies in a car crash, you can sue for damages. And you probably would, even if, say, you signed some kind of safety agreement before buying the car waiving the right to sue.

Just because the law "precisely" says it's not the carmaker's fault, doesn't mean the carmaker is not "on the hook" or share some of the legal burden.

I am not saying that we should ban cars or ban carsharing. I am saying, if you offer carsharing as a software service, and something goes wrong during that service, you are involved legally. It's not a precise "on/off" switch like launching a software product.

Re: Waze Carpool

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post #318

The really big difference between Waze Carpool and Uber/Lyft is that the driver is paid at most 54 cents a mile (e.g., gas money), and Waze will only match the driver with passengers for two trips / day. So it is not designed to be something where the driver will make a living, but really just as a way for a driver to get some company, maybe take advantage of the HOV lanes, and it gets some cars off of the road to re…

This. This is ride-sharing. A six year old can tell the difference between this, and a 1099-taxi service with an app.

Re: Waze Carpool

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You just described the pure software world solution. What happens when the commuter I pick up vomits in my car? Or steals something from my car? What happens if I get picked up by a person who changes their mind about where they're going? Or decide to take an unplanned detour to go to the store, or back home to grab the laptop they forgot, or to score some heroin? What happens when the driver gropes me? Or I grope th…

This is exactly how Uber turned into a taxi service. They tried ridesharing, it turns out that people in cars do sketchy things and piss each other off, or worse. I would rather see local grassroots organizations take on this project.

> This is exactly how Uber turned into a taxi service. They tried ridesharing, it turns out that people in cars do sketchy things and piss each other off, or worse.

Citation needed. My understanding is that the margins on actual ride-sharing, compared to being a taxi company, were too low for them.

And that they actually started as a black cab car company.

Re: Waze Carpool

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In Seattle or other cities where traffic congestion is such a problem, I'd take someone for free if I could drive in the carpool lanes. I can even imagine someone who could be paid for just being a body in the car by someone really well off.

Depending on what part of Seattle you commute to, you should definitely try out Scoop and see what you think! There are thousands of commuters in the King County area using Scoop (https://www.takescoop.com) already to turn their trips to work into meaningful time and take advantage of HOV lanes.
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