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Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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i survived the era before mobile.. it wasn't that scary :)

Same here, but it had its own set of annoyances. Sitting at home waiting for a phone call, or trying to coordinate meeting up, particularly spur of the moment, was a huge PITA. Even with cell phone annoyances, I prefer the cell phone world over the pre-cell phone world.

I would go back in a heartbeat.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Which is why they also have ushers whose job it is to move those conversations out of the concert hall. I'm not sure why you disagree with someone talking about Led Zeppelin based on your experience with Lisa Gerrard...

> Which is why they also have ushers whose job it is to move those conversations out of the concert hall. I've been to triple-digit number of gigs and that has never happened. Not once. Perhaps it's peculiar to the UK but still.

I've seen tons of people kicked out of venues. Most of the time the ushers are good enough to not disturb the event further when they do it.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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just show up later? the person you're trying to see was one of those opening acts once

> just show up later? When? The tickets usually don't say "oh yeah, the show scheduled for 20:00 actually starts 22:13".

Asking the venue usually works. IME a quick tweet on the day will get the stage times.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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I experienced the Yondr phone prison last night for the first time (at a Chris Rock show). While I detest people being disruptive with their phones, I don’t think this is the right solution. From a practical standpoint, it took a lot longer to get into and out of the venue when phones had to be locked up. Checking your phone when you pop out to the toilet meant waiting in a queue to have your phone unlocked, and bein…

I wonder if, some number of years in the future, when 95% of humans have neural implants that let them connect to the Internet and send telepathic messages to their friends and babysitter, there will be people too afraid to turn them off for the duration of a music concert, because of a possible terrorist attack or a fire? They’ll probably shake their heads and wonder how people ever got along without neural implants…

Nah, they won't be able to wonder anything anymore. The spaces where human personality might develop will all be filled and sealed shut.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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I was about to buy Jack White tickets today and... I think I'll pass. Don't get me wrong. I've seen several shows, including Jack White, that politely ask the audience to keep their phones away for part or all of the show. That's fine with me and it basically works. But as much as I'd like to see Jack White again, I really don't enjoy being treated like a child.

That's fine it is your choice not to attend no-phone shows.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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post #87

I experienced the Yondr phone prison last night for the first time (at a Chris Rock show). While I detest people being disruptive with their phones, I don’t think this is the right solution. From a practical standpoint, it took a lot longer to get into and out of the venue when phones had to be locked up. Checking your phone when you pop out to the toilet meant waiting in a queue to have your phone unlocked, and bein…

I think the viscerality of this response is fascinating. Putting your phone in a case is a "prison", and you must check it every time you go to the toilet, and you're concerned about a terrorist attack -- enough to want your phone, but not enough to stay home, as if your apps could somehow save you. > Treat people like adults. If they break the rules, ask them to leave. Isn't that what we've been trying for the past…

There are a couple of cool apps on phones called "Telephone" and "Messages" and you can call or text people in an emergency situation.

I'm pretty sure those are the apps one would use during a terrorist attack. But I've never been involved in one, so I could be wrong.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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post #87

I experienced the Yondr phone prison last night for the first time (at a Chris Rock show). While I detest people being disruptive with their phones, I don’t think this is the right solution. From a practical standpoint, it took a lot longer to get into and out of the venue when phones had to be locked up. Checking your phone when you pop out to the toilet meant waiting in a queue to have your phone unlocked, and bein…

> Consequently, Apple Pay will not be available tonight. I hadn't thought of that aspect, but that presents an interesting problem. As more things get centralized on phones, this will become less & less feasible.

> I hadn't thought of that aspect, but that presents an interesting problem. As more things get centralized on phones, this will become less & less feasible.

You don't need to have your phone out. Apple Pay works on the watch.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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post #232
post #87

I experienced the Yondr phone prison last night for the first time (at a Chris Rock show). While I detest people being disruptive with their phones, I don’t think this is the right solution. From a practical standpoint, it took a lot longer to get into and out of the venue when phones had to be locked up. Checking your phone when you pop out to the toilet meant waiting in a queue to have your phone unlocked, and bein…

i survived the era before mobile.. it wasn't that scary :)

Speaking of scary, check out this breed:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15913342

> Having lived through the horrors of the pre-smartphone days

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15913665

> I remember life before smartphones. I remember boredom. It sucked. I would never go back to the agonizing pain of sitting in the DMV for three ours or standing in line at a grocery store just for some "missed moment" where I study the shitty tabloids in line or DoT pamphlets.

> Romanticising the past is not new. Whether it's television, hot showers, or smartphones, there will always be cynics who wish a simpler life on the rest of us.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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While I wholeheartedly agree, the devil's advocate within me likes to remind that we had been mobile phone-less for years with no major concern.

We were without antibiotics for hundreds of years but no one's suggesting we go back to that. We were without mandatory seat belts for decades but no one's suggesting we go back to that. I just don't find the argument that there was a time where we did without something as a compelling counter argument to the perceived utility something serves today.

I would like to see the impact mobile phones and had on health and safety against the two items you've put forward.

Again, while I agree that it would eschew security for the sake of immersion, not wearing a seatbelt or not getting antibiotics could be a certain death sentence in many everyday life circumstances. Not having a mobile phone would not constitute such a dire situation in my eyes.

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