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Re: Robinhood Crypto – Invest in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies

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You think stocks are not speculative?

If I buy a lump of gold, and attempt to sell it to someone else later at a higher price, that is pure speculation. Gold is gold is gold. That lump of gold is going to be the same lump of gold a year from now or a hundred years from now. You might as well have buried the money in a backyard for all the change of affected in the world. If I take that same money and invest it in a business -- the business is going to ta…

> If I take that same money and invest it in a business -- the business is going to take that money and create something new.

Only if you're buying at the IPO. Most of the time, you're just buying stock from another person and the company gets zilch. The service you're providing to the company is just better information about its ability to raise additional capital from selling equity.

For some cryptocurrencies, you are providing a service to the miners by adding liquidity and pricing information, but given the volume trading on crypto exchanges, there is simply not enough currency being mined for even a tiny fraction of it to be going directly to miners as a counterparty. For a currency like Ripple, that is completely pre-mined, you don't even have that.

Re: Robinhood Crypto – Invest in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies

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Something about Robinhood just makes me uneasy - clearly their main target market is the small retail investor who is sensitive to a $7/trade fee, but the low friction, mobile-first no fee stock trading experience they've created mostly serves to encourage bad investor behavior i.e. emotional, irrational day trading among people who can least afford it. Now they are "democratizing" margin trading (Robinhood Gold), op…

> I remember seeing on their social a now deleted tweet

Naw. It's still there.

https://twitter.com/robinhoodapp/status/756262680537759744

The reply meme to this tweet tho.

"First time day trading with 2K.... AAAAND IT'S GONE".

Re: Robinhood Crypto – Invest in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies

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There's no such thing as a no-fee stock trading. It does not exist: every company that has "no fee" stock trading sells order flow to market makers.

Every single retail brokerage including all the companies that charge "fees" also sell order flows to market makers. All of them.

> Every single retail brokerage including all the companies that charge "fees" also sell order flows to market makers. All of them.

Not true, Interactive Brokers doesn't sell your order flow.

Re: Robinhood Crypto – Invest in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies

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I think the feature makes lots of sense for Robinhood from a business perspective, but I cannot see the majority of Robinhood users fully understanding the risks of buying cryptocurrencies as an investment. It feels similar penny stocks and late-90s tech IPOs in that the price is driven primarily by uncertainty/unknowability in outcome and hype from recent returns. Also I'm curious if Robinhood Gold (Robinhood's vers…

Their FAQ states that margin isn't allowed for crypto, or suitable as collateral

Re: Robinhood Crypto – Invest in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies

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Coinbase (aka GDAX) is extremely profitable, making couple million per day in fees. Evey piece of this pie is sweet, so we will probably see more serious legit US-based players on this market of casual crypto trading for housewives.

Coinbase bought GDAX. GDAX fee structure is different from Coinbase. Coinbase is geared towards consumers and they take bigger fees for buying. GDAX is geared toward professionals and take way less fees for buying and selling.

Coinbase built GDAX, used to be called Coinbase Exchange.

Re: Robinhood Crypto – Invest in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies

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This is amazing! I have been following robinhood for years, can’t wait to move my bitcoin away from coinbase

I'd put money on their backend being something such as CoinBase...

They are listing like 16 coins/tokens, so it has to be more than just Coinbase/GDAX.

Re: Robinhood Crypto – Invest in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies

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post #85

The web page reads: "Invest in Bitcoin & other cryptocurrencies". Can someone change the title to better match the web page? "Crypto" is a bit confusing without "currency".

OK, we've updated the title from “Introducing Robinhood Crypto”.

Thanks

Re: Robinhood Crypto – Invest in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies

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Ah, I didn't know they made money off that part of it. I suppose you give up some privacy/data when they resell your order, similar to using Facebook or Google. It's a slick business model, I didn't even realize it.

> Ah, I didn't know they made money off that part of it. I suppose you give up some privacy/data when they resell your order, similar to using Facebook or Google. It's a slick business model, I didn't even realize it. Your also giving up better trade execution ie paying more for shares. Robinhood is good for getting your feet wet but people should switch brokers as soon as possible.

Yeah, I plan on moving my shares to a broker with the nice features like DRIP/partial share purchases and so on once I accumulate enough capital to make the $5 trade fees worth it.

Re: Robinhood Crypto – Invest in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies

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How is that different from any other asset? One day it can be valuable, the next it might not. It doesn't change the fact that it is immutable.

Other assets are tied to real phenomena. With stocks, for example, I can make a prediction about a company's future performance, buy or short accordingly, and expect that if I am correct I will profit. I may be wrong about my prediction, but if I am correct then I've got far better than chance odds of also being correct about the future price of the asset. Without making any further predictions about the state of the…

A bitcoin is as real as anything else. It's ones and zeros stored in a distributed ledger on computers around the world. I'm sorry you're having trouble predicting the price, look up supply and demand. Either way it doesn't make it any less real.

Re: Robinhood Crypto – Invest in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies

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Something about Robinhood just makes me uneasy - clearly their main target market is the small retail investor who is sensitive to a $7/trade fee, but the low friction, mobile-first no fee stock trading experience they've created mostly serves to encourage bad investor behavior i.e. emotional, irrational day trading among people who can least afford it. Now they are "democratizing" margin trading (Robinhood Gold), op…

I think Robinhood does a great job of giving young traders the experience and knowledge of what actual trading is like before they're managing really meaningful amounts of money. College kids trading $500 on Robinhood are going to become 30 year olds who have a much better sense of how markets work and how emotion affects their own trading than college kids who are just instructed to give all their savings to mutual…

Maybe, except the college kids who just give all their money to mutual funds will make more money. The day-traders won't "learn how markets work," they'll learn how to lose money by making dumb trades based on less information than their counterparties. They won't learn anything, aaaannnnyyyyything, of actual value.
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