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Re: Waze Carpool

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Why isn't there a service that says: 1. Hey this is my route every morning. 2. Lets you see people's routes and "join". This doesn't need to be a centralized service. People could organize things among themselves. There are carpooling sites, but it requires a critical mass to be useful.

This is what waze should do. It already knows enough to say "hey, there is a person living within 500m of your home that drives almost to the same place almost exactly the same time every day".

Re: Waze Carpool

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You are pushing the argument a bit by assuming that people will treat it as something different than hitchhiking simply because it's via an app and in-city. There is no reason to asume that - but I do agree that false advertising from Google and failure to properly inform the users of the risks could expose Google to such a liability. The answer is not to add customer support, but to be honest with the users regardin…

I think that people will almost certainly treat it as something different than hitchhiking, and Google wants them to. In fact, the service depends on it, because if people treated it the same, it would happen at the same frequency as it happens today -- which is hardly at all -- and the service will fail.

I think you're overestimating how much people can and do rely on Uber support when something goes wrong in an UberPool.

And underestimate people's willingness assume all the risks with carpooling with a stranger. I see people lined up for a shared carpool to the DC suburbs every day.

Re: Waze Carpool

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In Seattle or other cities where traffic congestion is such a problem, I'd take someone for free if I could drive in the carpool lanes. I can even imagine someone who could be paid for just being a body in the car by someone really well off.

Washington, DC has slug lines, which are exactly that. http://www.slug-lines.com/Slugging/About_slugging.asp

The weird thing about this is for some reason it's huge in NoVa but not so much in the Maryland suburbs. Or at least it used to be. Not sure why.

Re: Waze Carpool

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> The same thing that happens in the non-Waze case: you kick them out, call the police, get mugged etc. It's not so simple. Normally people, at least in cities, rarely hitchhike or take up hitchhikers. The goal here is to make it acceptable, and naturally greatly increase the frequency this is happening. This can be reasonably taken as an endorsement by Google to the driver/passenger, because it is -- they want this…

"Casual Carpooling" at least used to be popular - you can read about it here: http://sfcasualcarpool.com/ Originally, for the East Bay to San Francisco trips, cash would not exchange hands because the Bay Bridge toll was waived for carpools. Now that the carpool toll is $2.50, my understanding is that it's a little more awkward.

it's still very popular, with a suggested donation of $1 per passenger. not awkward at all (I take it almost every day)

Re: Waze Carpool

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Why don't we hire a bunch of experts to figure out what the most common and efficient routes are for the most people and then hire people to run those routes regularly? Oops I just invented buses again, just the rest of these transportation startups eventually end up doing. The extremely boring answer to our transportation problems is to properly fund public transportation. We've known the solution for ages, but it's…

> The extremely boring answer to our transportation problems is to properly fund public transportation. We've known the solution for ages, but it's kept down by the wealthy class who don't want to pay for public works that would benefit everyone. I'd say the middle class are the real problem. You see, the primary reason why transit costs so much in taxes is because few people ride it. Few people ride it because drivi…

You'd be destroying a culture of independence in the US punishing car drivers so much, and I don't think it would be nearly worth it. I greatly appreciate being able to just go where I want without having to be beholden to public transit schedules and share the space with a bunch of strangers, and have my own temperature controls etc.

The "cost" cars have to society and how "subsidized" they are is ridiculously overblown around here. I had to pay maybe $400 registering+inspecting my car in NY, transfering to NJ was a few more hundred dollars, I had to pay to take the permit test, insurance was $350/month in NY and it's $115/month in NJ, taxes used for roads benefit transit too obviously, and bad drivers pay their externalities in tickets and insurance settlements.

Re: Waze Carpool

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You just described the pure software world solution. What happens when the commuter I pick up vomits in my car? Or steals something from my car? What happens if I get picked up by a person who changes their mind about where they're going? Or decide to take an unplanned detour to go to the store, or back home to grab the laptop they forgot, or to score some heroin? What happens when the driver gropes me? Or I grope th…

The same thing that happens in the non-Waze case: you kick them out, call the police, get mugged etc. The pure software world exists from Google's perspective, they provide zero support and then it's just a matter of individual choice if you want to use the service or not. Google can go a long way into making this significantly safer than random pick-up: you can select female only drivers or riders, only riders from…

Waze has some sort of social integration. I wouldn’t be surprised if eventually you could scope things to some extended network.

I’d be happy giving a fellow student or employee of my company a lift, but probably less likely to give random members of the public.

Re: Waze Carpool

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A few other similar services http://libretaxi.org most of it open source except dependency on telegram http://www.twogo.com by SAP For young adults hopskipdrive.com ridezum.com zemcar.com One thing to note is that there are two apps you need from waze.The waze app is for driver of the carpool.Carpool app is for the rider.

I think you're missing Scoop.

Re: Waze Carpool

#179

Previous attempts at this sort of service in Canada: Blancride https://blancride.com/ Kangaride https://www.kangaride.com/ Blancride in particular had a slick app. Unfortunately, I tried it a few times and never had a good. People flaked at the last minute, wanted me (the driver) to wait a long time, etc.

Don't forget https://www.poparide.com (disclaimer, I'm the founder), we started in British Columbia and are now active in Ontario and Québec, with over 75,000 members.

Our model is closer to BlaBlaCar's in Europe (longer distance) but we do see people using our app to commute to work, usually on distances of 50 miles or more.

Re: Waze Carpool

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Unlike Uber, they appear to talk about a real carsharing system, as opposed to a taxi service with a lower entry barrier. The prices will be much lower since we are talking about the marginal cost of adding another passenger to an already happening trip - and with full info on where people are going, Waze effectively has an endless supply of trips that are happening, it's just a matter of displaying a pop-up "Hey, Al…

You just described the pure software world solution. What happens when the commuter I pick up vomits in my car? Or steals something from my car? What happens if I get picked up by a person who changes their mind about where they're going? Or decide to take an unplanned detour to go to the store, or back home to grab the laptop they forgot, or to score some heroin? What happens when the driver gropes me? Or I grope th…

> What happens when the commuter I pick up vomits in my car?

You clean it up and make a decision about whether you'd pick them up again.

> Or steals something from my car?

You call the police and tell them who that person is and where they live.

> What happens if I get picked up by a person who changes their mind about where they're going?

You tell them to drop you off and you don't ride with them again.

> Or decide to take an unplanned detour to go to the store

If you're fine with it, you go along with it. If you're not find with it, see above.

> or back home to grab the laptop they forgot

See above.

> or to score some heroin?

If you like heroin, ask them to pick you some up too. If not, see above.

> What happens when the driver gropes me?

Get out, report them to the police, don't ride with them again.

> Or I grope the driver?

Please don't do that.

Is it really Waze's job to resolve these issues beyond blacklisting users?

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