Problem is being able to monetize.
There is no monetization concern here, the project is sponsored by Framasoft, a French non-profit organization who wants to provide free-software alternatives to services owned by big corporations.
PeerTube – Federated video streaming platform using P2P directly in the browser
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#32I think for this to be successful you need to encourage users to server the videos. There are a couple things that might help this: - Popularity could be based not only on views, but how many total minutes of the video were shared by other people. - When someone watches a video, they have to keep hosting it until they share as much as they've watched it (so if they watched 10 minutes, they have to share it until they…
Make them share for ~10% longer than they consumed for a more robust network.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you now for certain? Because both the parent post and the repo seems to indicate otherwise and the only reason I ask is because that sounds a little to amazing.
No, the person does not know it for certain. You're correct that it does connect to "the real ipfs network". And you're right that it is amazing!
Thanks for clarifying!
And thanks for working on this project!
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
It surely does, take a look at js-ipfs for full in-browser node ( https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs ) and also js-ipfs-api for communicating with existing go-ipfs/js-ipfs nodes ( https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-api ) Disclaimer: I work at Protocol Labs on IPFS
Does this mean you can actually connect to the real ipfs network from a browser without connecting to a gateway like ipfs.io?
IPFS can work in the browser via sharing over WebRTC but not UDP/TCP.
So it is not great, but does work. WebTorrent is also WebRTC fyi.
The tech isn't quite there yet, but eventually yes everyone's machine could be a CDN of sorts.
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#35Problem is being able to monetize.
Monetise what? For whom? The thing is distributed, it's not like the host has to shoulder most of the bandwidth costs.
If one wants to live off their videos, that's another problem, but most videos don't mean to be monetised at all —no ads, no Patreon, no nothing.
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#36I think for this to be successful you need to encourage users to server the videos. There are a couple things that might help this: - Popularity could be based not only on views, but how many total minutes of the video were shared by other people. - When someone watches a video, they have to keep hosting it until they share as much as they've watched it (so if they watched 10 minutes, they have to share it until they…
Make them share for ~10% longer than they consumed for a more robust network.
Most people have terrible upload speeds compared to download speeds. In my neighborhood most people (by choice because they aren't tech savy and don't care) have AT&T DSL with 40Mbps download but 2Mbps upload. This means that for a good quality 10 minute video at 720p with a bitrate of 3mbps they would have to seed for significantly longer than viewing just to get a ratio of 1 without degrading downstream performance.
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#37Problem is being able to monetize.
Most don't get their money from Youtube today. They use patreon, sell stuff and make direct endorsement deals.
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#38Problem is being able to monetize.
While it does follow the cryptocurrency craze, this is one of the goals of LivePeer (https://livepeer.org/). They are using the crypto-currency as an incentive to provide streaming services and trying to build an incentive around it.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Make them share for ~10% longer than they consumed for a more robust network.
Most people have terrible upload speeds compared to download speeds. In my neighborhood most people (by choice because they aren't tech savy and don't care) have AT&T DSL with 40Mbps download but 2Mbps upload. This means that for a good quality 10 minute video at 720p with a bitrate of 3mbps they would have to seed for significantly longer than viewing just to get a ratio of 1 without degrading downstream performance…
Good point. Equal is probably fine.
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#40This is really cool ! Framasoft is doing a great job with their project to «ungoogle the internet»[1]. I really wish Mozilla tried doing the same thing, with their much bigger manpower and communication impact. [1]: https://degooglisons-internet.org/liste?l=en
Un Google the internet? I hope so but almost every remotely commercial site out there uses Google services.
Google icon fonts are the bane of my existence.