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Mac isn't really an option if you want a powerful desktop though, unless you want to spend $5k I guess...
Yet OP spent that and more...
Yeah, but nobody is saying that OP made smart decisions here...
Building a Lightroom PC
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#192This is really interesting. Reminds me to a degree of John Siracusa's OSX reviews. I am struck by how customizable windows is. Is it possible to customize osx to such a degree?
> Reminds me to a degree of John Siracusa's OSX reviews
Lacks the pixel counting...
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#193So, the main reason he switched to a Windows machine was to use the latest/fastest hardware with Adobe Lightroom and Premiere, but then he goes on to say the Lightroom and Premiere don’t take advantage of many core CPUs, the fastest GPUs, fastest SSDs, etc... And Windows is fine after tweaking and adjusting dozens of settings. I’ll just stick with a Mac.
You can do whatever you want with Windows. Even after tweaking dozens of settings on my Mac, I still don’t like it.
Can you see the time with a fullscreen video without having to minimize the video yet?
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#194There are lot and lot of advices in this article you SHOULD PRECISELY NOT FOLLOW when you build an editing PC. > Watercooling Watercooling addicts will try to argue that you can achieve a better cooling performance than with aircooling. The truth is that watercooling is at best only 1 or 2 degrees cooler than a proper aircooling system, or even worse in some tests. Then they will argue that watercooling provide a bet…
The guy went to great pains to share a very detailed article. Perhaps you could be a bit more helpful with your opinions rather than dismissive of his.
As for delidding and water cooling, while yessir, water cooling doesn't normally offer much benefit, that is because you are still cooling with ambient air. If your processor overclocked, you will likely see larger improvements with water cooled. And for the i7 8700k, there seems to be quite a lot of anectodal evidence so far that it is difficult to keep cool at 5ghz+ is difficult without delidding.
I am in the process of designing a new dev rig and in the past, I have always stuck with stock speeds. But the ability to overclock 6 cores from 3.9ghz to 5ghz seems worth it.
And you can purchased pre-delidded, guaranteed, and tested for stability CPUs from various reputable vendors online for an upcharge.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
The switch stories are always either “from Mac-OS” or “to Linux”, the former being a “oh no you didn’t” and the latter being “I’m with cool birds now” narrative. It’s basically non-stories because your OS matters as little as what programming language you use. Pick the one that works for you, but don’t become a fucking missionary or tie your personality to your brand of choice.
>> Pick the one that works for you, but don’t become a fucking missionary or tie your personality to your brand of choice. I find that people naturally tend to want others to be like them. It doesn't matter whether its politics, religion, OS, camera brand, camera sensor size, programming language, diet fad or whatnot. Maybe it makes them feel better about the choices they made?
More like people want external confirmation that they made the right choice.
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Looking at that, you can only get workstation graphics, which is something he did not want since he does occasionally play games.
Low spec the graphics card and replace just that one component. You'd still get a more RAM support (and ECC at that), heavy workload CPU support, and most importantly a motherboard designed to shove that much data back and forth between the CPU, RAM and other devices. What I realised with my gaming builds before is that the weakest link was just shifting the data around. The CPU was seldom maxed out, the RAM seldom s…
There would be no difference at all for him with ECC ram. Except for slightly lower performance.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
The switch stories are always either “from Mac-OS” or “to Linux”, the former being a “oh no you didn’t” and the latter being “I’m with cool birds now” narrative. It’s basically non-stories because your OS matters as little as what programming language you use. Pick the one that works for you, but don’t become a fucking missionary or tie your personality to your brand of choice.
>It’s basically non-stories because your OS matters as little as what programming language you use. >Pick the one that works for you, but don’t become a fucking missionary or tie your personality to your brand of choice. I do what I want and you can't tell me what to do! I think RMS was and is right and computing should not be viewed through a purely pragmatic lense, and I'm going to keep mentioning the importance of…
The RMS message is different though.
It is not about any specific OS or platform, it is about making sure the owner/admin is the final arbiter of what can or can't be done on that computer (now and into the infinite future).
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#198I'm leaning in the same direction myself. My 2017 MBP Pro has been a disappointment. The touch bar is a nuisance. The excessively large trackpad leads to a lot of phantom taps, and I'm still using adapters to plug things into it. Since I'm wrapping up the last of my iOS client work there's nothing really tying me to macOS any more and a PC seems to provide way more bang for the buck for the things I care about - Andr…
I bought and returned a 2017 MBP just last week. It is a pretty awful experience when compared to the old model. The keyboard is truly awful. As you said the TouchBar is annoying and adds nothing positive to the experience. I think Apple could have left at least one USB Type-A port just to make life a little bit easier but nope. I feel the touchpad has got a little worse as well although maybe that is just due to the size of it. It is annoyingly large.
However the biggest issue was that when playing a video on Netflix or YouTube (both in Chrome) I would get dropped frames when switching around programs. That doesn't even happen on my 2011 ThinkPad so it sure as hell shouldn't happen on a 2017 high-end MBP!
So yeah £3k on a MBP and it went back after a week as it was just a pain in the ass to use.
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#199I use both Lightroom and Darktable regularly. While DT has a bit more bumpy UX, it makes up for that by being more flexible than LR and really fast on Linux with a good GPU with OpenCL support. And there is nothing that LR can do that DT can't. I.e. you don't need to shell out 6k for new box to make LR run fast. Just bite the bullet and learn another RAW editing app. If you have thousands (or ten thousands, in my cas…
Lightroom is slow as fuck in my experience. Just bought a new laptop with a top of the line i7 CPU, SSD, 32GB RAM, 1050 GPU, etc. and it tears through video editing, solidworks CAD work, etc.
But even still LR lags constantly working with a small collection of photos from my M4/3 camera. Like I can't scroll through a collection without it hanging.
I assume this is caused by poor GPU utilization, but it's very frustrating whatever the cause.
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#200Well, if you think water cooling is cool, try passive cooling. A few years back I build my current PC: - Core i7-4770S (Haswell, so you see its not that new anymore) - 32GB RAM - SSD 840 EVO 1TB (not that new either) - some passive PSU Last year I added an - AMD Radeon 460 So the whole thing is completely passively cooled. So no noise at all and I am pretty happy with the performance. I don't know what 'instant' perf…
Passively cooling 65W TDP?