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NSA Deletes “Honesty” and “Openness” from Core Values

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As if "core values" meant anything for colossal organisations.

> Enron intends to conduct itself in accord with four [capital-V ]Values: Respect , Integrity , Communication and Excellence .

Amazingly they went against all 4 at the same time

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> In response to questions from The Intercept on Tuesday, the NSA played down the alterations. Thomas Groves, a spokesperson for the agency, said: “It’s nothing more than a website update, that’s all it is.” ^^ Updating the wordage on the website was a task placed on the queue of a website administrator which was requested by the manager as a takeaway from an internal meeting reviewing core values. This explanation i…

Doubt you will find many such reporters in America remaining

There are lots of great reporters in the USA with integrity. I am sad to see this general sentiment that quality journalism is dead.

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Fortunately these government agencies are mostly corrupt, dysfunctional, and unable to recruit talent, so we probably don't have much to worry about.

Any objective source for your claims? If your basis is the attitude for such agencies here on hacker news, it’s understandable why you might believe those to be true, but they aren’t.

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Fortunately these government agencies are mostly corrupt, dysfunctional, and unable to recruit talent, so we probably don't have much to worry about.

Any objective source for your claims? If your basis is the attitude for such agencies here on hacker news, it’s understandable why you might believe those to be true, but they aren’t.

I've worked directly with people in the IC, and I have friends who've worked (or currently work) at various government agencies.

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Those words are associated to non-costly virtue signalling anyway, so who cares. The NSA can't win. If they let them stay, they're accused of lying, if the remove it, they get this response. I'm kind of neutral on the issue, but I do get bothered with societal dynamics where no matter what an actor does, they lose.

That's what happens when an actor is, by definition, in opposition of the very fiber of an organization (the US).

Read Amendment IV, and tell me how they fit in.

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