Ironically taking a step towards 'honesty'.
Man I was thinking the exact same thing. By nature these folks at the NSA CAN'T be open nor honest.
NSA Deletes “Honesty” and “Openness” from Core Values
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#12Ironically taking a step towards 'honesty'.
One last time. > Since at least May 2016, the surveillance agency had featured honesty as the first of four “core values” listed on NSA.gov, alongside “respect for the law,” “integrity,” and “transparency.” The agency vowed on the site to “be truthful with each other.” Also, I'm thinking they should probably remove all of these, if they were truly honest with us. Respect for the law? Come on. They've been constantly…
Logically they only have to remove "honesty"
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#13Well, they weren't using them anyway.
Who knows, maybe they were. But they could interpret them differently. A kind of "alternative honesty" and "alternative openness".
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#14> In response to questions from The Intercept on Tuesday, the NSA played down the alterations. Thomas Groves, a spokesperson for the agency, said: “It’s nothing more than a website update, that’s all it is.” ^^ Updating the wordage on the website was a task placed on the queue of a website administrator which was requested by the manager as a takeaway from an internal meeting reviewing core values. This explanation i…
Doubt you will find many such reporters in America remaining
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#15Well, they weren't using them anyway.
At least they're being honest
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#16Those words are associated to non-costly virtue signalling anyway, so who cares. The NSA can't win. If they let them stay, they're accused of lying, if the remove it, they get this response. I'm kind of neutral on the issue, but I do get bothered with societal dynamics where no matter what an actor does, they lose.
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#17Interesting that this came up today given the rumors about an internal "civil war" going on in the CIA, NSA, and FBI. It's hard to know what the truth is, but what I know is that these agencies have way, way too much power over our lives and if we were smart we would shut them down and start over. Otherwise, we're looking at a US Stasi, complete with "the disappeared" as has happened in every third world country and even in Europe (Stasi, hey).
Whether you are a D, R, or anything else, you have to appreciate how dangerous these organizations have become. Saddest of all, it may already be too late to roll any of it back.
And if we find out that Marxists (or "globalist" or whatever) infiltrated these agencies and were selling secrets to adversaries, the bad actors should get the same treatment as the Rosenbergs as a message to anyone else who would sell out our country and its citizens.
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#18Ironically taking a step towards 'honesty'.
One last time. > Since at least May 2016, the surveillance agency had featured honesty as the first of four “core values” listed on NSA.gov, alongside “respect for the law,” “integrity,” and “transparency.” The agency vowed on the site to “be truthful with each other.” Also, I'm thinking they should probably remove all of these, if they were truly honest with us. Respect for the law? Come on. They've been constantly…
I feel like removing it completely would fail to capture the partial truth. Perhaps replace "respect for law" with "respect for authority"?
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#19> In response to questions from The Intercept on Tuesday, the NSA played down the alterations. Thomas Groves, a spokesperson for the agency, said: “It’s nothing more than a website update, that’s all it is.” ^^ Updating the wordage on the website was a task placed on the queue of a website administrator which was requested by the manager as a takeaway from an internal meeting reviewing core values. This explanation i…
Doubt you will find many such reporters in America remaining
The journalist reporting it is French, his boss lives in Brasil.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
One last time. > Since at least May 2016, the surveillance agency had featured honesty as the first of four “core values” listed on NSA.gov, alongside “respect for the law,” “integrity,” and “transparency.” The agency vowed on the site to “be truthful with each other.” Also, I'm thinking they should probably remove all of these, if they were truly honest with us. Respect for the law? Come on. They've been constantly…
Logically they only have to remove "honesty"
Is “honest” even enough or is the proper claim “literally honest”?