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Why I left Google to join Grab

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Re: Why I left Google to join Grab

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I actually, because of the app I was reading this on, failed to realize this was a Yegge post until the end. No wonder it was such a good read. Welcome back to the real world, man, hoping we see more blogs from you in the future!

My first thought upon reading the title was "who cares why somebody left Google, unless it's somebody like Steve Yegge."

Re: Why I left Google to join Grab

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"why I left google to join grab"

nobody gives a shit! why are people spamming the internet with these "why I did this" articles? who cares why YOU did something!? we all do that we feel is best for us, it's called life, I don't want to know your every move; this isn't twitter!

Re: Why I left Google to join Grab

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The only way to stop labor practices that involve abusing workers, not paying a living wage or for healthcare, is to say (as a customer and voter) that you will not tolerate this type of business existing.

In other words, if company X can only deliver your low price pizza and Diet Coke via abuse of its workers, then that business should not exist. It's a hard leap to make for many people, but a necessary one.

Re: Why I left Google to join Grab

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The view from Shenzhen: Naomi Wu / @RealSexyCyborg / 10 Dec 2017 / Naomi Wu Retweeted Seruko If food delivery cost $0.40USD with no "tip" lots of Western countries might be at a similar place. Cheap migrant labor is the backbone of our e-commerce boom. The way they treat those boys is unforgivable. [1] The gig economy - more cost-effective than slavery. [1] https://twitter.com/realsexycyborg?lang=en

Here in Sweden the cost in the cities is usually around $3-$10 with most around $4. The government is also considering to impose some regulars since the drivers only get a portion of the profits and the average earnings turns out to be smaller than minimum wage.

Not sure about the other Western countries.

Re: Why I left Google to join Grab

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The only way to stop labor practices that involve abusing workers, not paying a living wage or for healthcare, is to say (as a customer and voter) that you will not tolerate this type of business existing. In other words, if company X can only deliver your low price pizza and Diet Coke via abuse of its workers, then that business should not exist. It's a hard leap to make for many people, but a necessary one.

This is a coordination problem, i.e. of the same general class as how to maintain a cartel or avoid a race to the bottom to the cost of producers and benefit of consumers in an oligopolistic market. To summarise; it can’t be done unless the cartel can make and enforce legal contracts divining the market or with more than three market participants. Same reason the bidders for Amazon HQ2 can’t collude; cooperation is really, really hard. You need an enforcement mechanism.

Re: Why I left Google to join Grab

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The view from Shenzhen: Naomi Wu / @RealSexyCyborg / 10 Dec 2017 / Naomi Wu Retweeted Seruko If food delivery cost $0.40USD with no "tip" lots of Western countries might be at a similar place. Cheap migrant labor is the backbone of our e-commerce boom. The way they treat those boys is unforgivable. [1] The gig economy - more cost-effective than slavery. [1] https://twitter.com/realsexycyborg?lang=en

Actual permalink to the tweet: https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/940058014886780928

The previous tweets in the thread seem more relevant here:

https://twitter.com/BeijingPalmer/status/940010649010233344

> I'm generally skeptical of anyone who makes a week-long trip to China and comes back awed by 'how advanced they are in X.' In my experience Chinese academics and firms lie their ass off to visitors.

https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/940013406458757120

> Unfortunately...yes. It's economics- photos of "foreigners looking impressed at X" is pretty much a requirement for any sort of fund raising here. Western counterparts have incentive to play along so they can say "the Chinese are beating us at X" and get more funding back home.

Re: Why I left Google to join Grab

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Wow, that's an impressive recruitment material (apart from being an interesting read, of course)! That works so much better than a bland "We're hiring" page, having the picture painted that way makes it much easier to imagine yourself taking a side in that "war". Is that a new trend?

Good luck to Steve!

Re: Why I left Google to join Grab

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was just talking to my UBer driver in Manila. He made $550 per month working as a registered nurse in one of the largest hospitals here. Driving for Uber he makes $1700 to $2100 per month. I'm assuming Grab pays similarly. I don't think he's really done the math to figure out maintenance and fuel costs, but presumably he's coming out ahead in any case. This is a major issue in developing countries where institution…

What I am afraid of is that these people payments are being subsidised by VC money, when that money runs out and they have to compete truly based on market self-regulated prices I fear the workers will be getting paid less and less to make up for the costs, it's good for a while but people are becoming dependent on something that is still very unstable.

> people are becoming dependent on something that is still very unstable.

What industries would you consider stable today...?

Re: Why I left Google to join Grab

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How depressing. Our living planet is collapsing at a dizzying and increasing pace, and not only do our 'best and brightest' (if that's what they are) work largely on trivia designed to accelerate the collapsing trend, they advertise their superficiality with this crude purported messianic zeal. Froth and bubble atop the dank turbid waters.
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