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Re: Firefox 58

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Post by catdog »

nirv wrote: post #170
scrollaway wrote: post #102

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I also switched back to firefox a few weeks ago and I'm not impressed. * Performance is really not that good. I especially have issue on Google sites (Docs and Drive). * Scroll-wheel to switch between tabs is gone. * No multi-tab management (shift/ctrl+click to select and move multiple tabs) like Chrome has * Firefox's UI on Android is utter garbage, so I haven't been able to switch there which defeats the point of h…

What's wrong with the Firefox on Android? Recent version is minimalistic in terms of design, while works the same way as desktop FF in terms of UX. I've never had any issues, plus "Firefox Sync", "Send Tab to Device..." and Pocket Reader integration—are really great features. As for desktop version, multiselect/moving tabs is convenient on Chrome, but vertical tabs/bookmarks/history/synced devices available in Firefo…

And not to forget the most important feature: you can install uBlock Origin

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by [deleted] »

kbenson wrote: post #96
eitland wrote: post #42

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This seems to be a weird thing: I've been om FF the while time and I'm impatient. In the other hand I've no reason not to believe it when so many people report performance issues. My best guess is a combination of different browsing habits and/or different hardware/os. (My browsing habits are mostly hn, local news and pages I work on and I've had decent hardware running various versions of Linux and Windows.)

I've found some stuff to be a bit slower on new FF since I made the switch when Quantum came out, but I chalk that up to heavy use of some Google webapps in which the chrome optimizations might have the opposite effect on a different JavaScript engine, and heavy use of containers, which are awesome .[1] 1: At first I didn't know how to get sites to default to a container, so kept having to close and reopen tabs to ge…

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Re: Firefox 58

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Post by tzs »

Someone1234 wrote: post #151
tzs wrote: post #135

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Its out of the box spell checking is just terrible, at least on OS X compared to Chrome and Safari. Your example doesn't bother me too much, because at least it is right that the word is not spelled correctly. It is just not being great at suggesting replacements (although on my Mac it omits "Tait" and does suggest "That" at the end of the list, and if the misspelled word was "taht" rather than "Taht" then "that" is…

Grab Mozilla's "Multi-Account Containers"[0] add-on. Each container has its own self-contained session, session data, and cookies. Plus only a single window, different containers are just regular tabs, whereas in Chrome it is one window per profile. [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

Those are good, but it doesn't look like you can have per-container bookmarks. With Chrome persons or Firefox profiles each identity has its own bookmarks.

I wonder if one could write a bookmark manager extension for Firefox that would allow having named collections of bookmarks that could be saved and restored? And if so, would it be possible to make it so that a named set could be associated with a container account and automatically switch in that set whenever you are in a container for that account?

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by bsaul »

k__ wrote: post #7

Switched back to Firefox a few months ago and I'm blown away by the speed. Last time I had this feeling after switching to Chrome from Firefox years ago, haha. Besides videos everything works like a charm. Somehow some videos won't start and sometimes I get a message that the video format could not be read, never had this issue in Chrome.

« Besides videos » is a great problem imho. The video player is complete garbage. Everytime my video is starting to stutter, i go to chrome to see if it’s a network issue, and so far 100% of the time chrome played it just fine.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by executesorder66 »

tzs wrote: post #138
adpirz wrote: post #52

FF 57 was much snappier on my Mac than on Chrome, but it occasionally turned into a CPU hog and got the fans spinning full blast. Did anyone else experience that?

I've occasionally seen something named "FirefoxCP Web Content" taking 90+% of a core, mostly on Reddit. Most of the time when it happens on Reddit it stops if I turn on uBlock Origin and refresh the page. Sometimes, though, it still happens even after that.

> it stops if I turn on uBlock Origin and refresh the page

Why do you turn it off in the first place?

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by eitland »

kbenson wrote: post #96
eitland wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems to be a weird thing: I've been om FF the while time and I'm impatient. In the other hand I've no reason not to believe it when so many people report performance issues. My best guess is a combination of different browsing habits and/or different hardware/os. (My browsing habits are mostly hn, local news and pages I work on and I've had decent hardware running various versions of Linux and Windows.)

I've found some stuff to be a bit slower on new FF since I made the switch when Quantum came out, but I chalk that up to heavy use of some Google webapps in which the chrome optimizations might have the opposite effect on a different JavaScript engine, and heavy use of containers, which are awesome .[1] 1: At first I didn't know how to get sites to default to a container, so kept having to close and reopen tabs to ge…

I too experience surprisingly bad performance with google webapps in Firefox.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by robin_reala »

gsnedders wrote: post #165
robin_reala wrote: post #150

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Any chance you could poke the Hangouts team to get that working in Firefox? At this point they’ve have 28 months public notice that Mozilla would be deprecating NPAPI.

Hangouts works in Firefox Nightly now.

Oh! Great news, it didn’t when I last tested a couple of weeks ago so I’d assumed there was no progress.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by thirdsun »

While I really enjoy Firefox' comeback and regained snappiness, the performance of css transforms and animation is still subpar.

With larger and more complex elements that are affected by CSS transform events it becomes very noticeable that the animation is far from smooth, unlike in other browser like Chrome or Safari. I saw this behavior in every recent Firefox version on macOS - from stable to nightly. However there's so little discussion that I feel I might be the only one experiencing this.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by dbbk »

vezycash wrote: post #78

About Updates Anyone appreciates how Firefox gives us choice? Unlike Chrome where I have to resort to hacks to stop the damned thing from downloading a fresh version whenever it feels like? BTW: Does chrome keep to the promise of patch or diff updates instead of 100MB+ downloads for every release?

Automatic updates are essential to the timely rollout of new web standards.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by tzs »

executesorder66 wrote: post #175
tzs wrote: post #138

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I've occasionally seen something named "FirefoxCP Web Content" taking 90+% of a core, mostly on Reddit. Most of the time when it happens on Reddit it stops if I turn on uBlock Origin and refresh the page. Sometimes, though, it still happens even after that.

> it stops if I turn on uBlock Origin and refresh the page Why do you turn it off in the first place?

Reddit ads are at fixed positions on the page and don't have sound or motion. They generally provide no distraction, unless the content actually catches my attention because it is something I'm actually interested in. Their ad targeting is good enough that I actually am interested in a fair number of them.

Unless it turns out that the high CPU usage is the fault of the ads (which I've not been able to prove), Reddit's ad system is the kind of ad system we should be encouraging, so I don't block them.

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