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Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by jo909 »

XERQ wrote: post #298

For those of you looking for competitive prices with servers in the U.S., take a look at SSD Nodes—a bootstrapped hosting provider I've been working on since 2011. I'm the founder and CEO, so I'm a little biased, but we're offering 16GB of RAM plus KVM for a price that's more than competitive with Hetzner, and have clients posting excellent benchmarks, like 1.1 GB/s throughput and 480K IOPS[0]. Check out our pricing:…

To be honest monthly pricing and full year commitments to get special deals no longer do it for me.

I'm sure you'll find some customers at those prices, but it does not compare with what Hetzner is offering here just because of that.

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Post by xchaotic »

XERQ wrote: post #298

For those of you looking for competitive prices with servers in the U.S., take a look at SSD Nodes—a bootstrapped hosting provider I've been working on since 2011. I'm the founder and CEO, so I'm a little biased, but we're offering 16GB of RAM plus KVM for a price that's more than competitive with Hetzner, and have clients posting excellent benchmarks, like 1.1 GB/s throughput and 480K IOPS[0]. Check out our pricing:…

two things kill it for me - annual commitment - I'm just playing around and I have so many options to choose from without the commitment. Mind you, we're spending $10k+ on AWS right now, but it all started with a free tier. Another thing is we're based in Europe and you only have servers in the US. Good luck in the ultra competitive market.

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by e12e »

simplyinfinity wrote: post #294
e12e wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you need a load balancer if you don't have enough traffic to justify a beefier dedicated box with a few tb data included and a proper gb uplink? Are you streaming game/3d data or something where each request is really compute heavy, but data is less than 100mbs? [ed: never mind - 20tb included for the cheapest box. That's a bit of a departure from earlier. That's 60 mbps sustained 24/7 for a month. That's prob…

If one machine goes down (updates, hacked, hardware failure) i still need to have a second one that can handle the incoming requests

And if the lb goes down?

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by XERQ »

xchaotic wrote: post #322
XERQ wrote: post #298

For those of you looking for competitive prices with servers in the U.S., take a look at SSD Nodes—a bootstrapped hosting provider I've been working on since 2011. I'm the founder and CEO, so I'm a little biased, but we're offering 16GB of RAM plus KVM for a price that's more than competitive with Hetzner, and have clients posting excellent benchmarks, like 1.1 GB/s throughput and 480K IOPS[0]. Check out our pricing:…

two things kill it for me - annual commitment - I'm just playing around and I have so many options to choose from without the commitment. Mind you, we're spending $10k+ on AWS right now, but it all started with a free tier. Another thing is we're based in Europe and you only have servers in the US. Good luck in the ultra competitive market.

Totally understand, and thank you for taking the time to provide feedback.

In most cases our annual price is equivalent to 1-3 months of a competitor's monthly price. You mentioned AWS so I'm going to use them as an example, even though it's not an apples to apples comparison. Their m5.xlarge is similar to our X-Large plan (16GB RAM + 4vCPUs). I'll ignore that it doesn't include storage or bandwidth, for simplicity. The m5.xlarge (with no storage or bandwidth) costs $140/month on-demand, which exceeds the annual price of the X-Large plan. If you reserve an m5.xlarge for 1 year (paid upfront) with AWS, the cost is a little less than $1K, which is close to 10X the cost of our X-Large.

If customers cancel their server with us after the 14-day refund period, we provide a prorated credit for the remainder of their billing cycle[0]. So if someone cancels after 2 months, they get the remaining 10 months as credit. They can use that towards renewals, new services, etc. I totally respect it's not for everyone, but the cost savings can be substantial for those who are able to use our services.

We are also expanding to Europe in the near future.

[0] https://www.ssdnodes.com/features/

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by floriferous »

danielbln wrote: post #66

Quite impressed so far, the interface clean and straight forward. We've been using Hetzner for years, mostly because the PX121 machines offer excellent performance for cheap. We'll be doing some in depth testing of this new cloud offering in the coming days/weeks. Provisioning is already impressively fast, especially if you're coming from EC2 where it feels like an intern has to press a button or something to get an…

This made me laugh

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by mark_l_watson »

kuschku wrote: post #264
mark_l_watson wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t mind the latency. I rent a a large GPU server from them for my own machine learning experiments. Their prices are so reasonably inexpensive that this is affordable. I think it would be more expensive for them to provide the same service in the USA - I base this in pricing. OVH is the only local provider I have used that is somewhat price competitive.

A fair warning to you: IMMEDIATELY TURN OFF UPDATES FOR THE NVIDIA DRIVER Since a few weeks ago, Nvidia changes their driver ToS, and any new versions of the driver are not permitted to be used in datacenters (except for crypto mining). See more here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15983587

Thanks for the heads up. I don;t plan on updating the drivers - everything works fine and hopefully nvidia drivers don’t need security updates.

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by aloisamae »

bootcat wrote: post #225
bootcat wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am also on Linode as its price point is its strength. Really considering if Hetzner would charge forex on US cards, otherwise, seems like a good plan.

Does anybody know if Hetzner charges forex on US debit/credit cards ?

I pay Hetzner via PayPal, and I haven't had any fees attached. Online.net however charges a card directly so my bank does charge it as a foreign transaction and adds a percentage.

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by abawany »

contingencies wrote: post #229

I recently tried Google Compute Cloud and concluded it's got almost as awful and crufty an interface as AWS. Almost. What is it with cloud providers, they can't hire a designer? Or they don't take them seriously? This stuff is terrible. So I'm still sold vs. AWS, and I have to run some nodes, and I think great, I can put the business credit card on a cloud account and run stuff. But then Google refuses to let me sign…

I have used GCE, AWS, Hetzner, and OVH. On the face of it, while the GCE interface seemed very strange (e.g. can't rename most resources after creation), I have come to the conclusion that it is the best of the cloud providers. The flexibility of being able to upscale/downscale a machine, setting it up and then shutting it down until needed for free, the sustained use discount, and the fast startup keep me coming back. That said, I run a lot on Hetzner and love the fact that it just works. Edit: syntax, addditions for Hetnzer.

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by raguuu »

theipman wrote: post #315

Interesting speeds: ------------------------------------------------- nench.sh v2017.06.01 -- https://git.io/nench.sh benchmark timestamp: 2018-01-23 20:03:56 UTC ------------------------------------------------- Processor: Intel Xeon Processor (Skylake, IBRS) CPU cores: 1 Frequency: 2099.998 MHz RAM: 1.9G Swap: - Kernel: Linux 4.4.0-112-generic x86_64 Disks: sda 19.1G HDD CPU: SHA256-hashing 500 MB 3.249 seconds CPU…

My Digitalocean comparison:

  -------------------------------------------------
   nench.sh v2017.06.01 -- https://git.io/nench.sh
   benchmark timestamp:    2018-01-24 04:11:01 UTC
  -------------------------------------------------
  
  Processor:    Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650L v3 @ 1.80GHz
  CPU cores:    1
  Frequency:    1799.998 MHz
  RAM:          992M
  Swap:         -
  Kernel:       Linux 4.4.0-112-generic x86_64
  
  Disks:
  vda     25G  HDD
  
  CPU: SHA256-hashing 500 MB
      4.450 seconds
  CPU: bzip2-compressing 500 MB
      7.930 seconds
  CPU: AES-encrypting 500 MB
      2.435 seconds
  
  ioping: seek rate
    min/avg/max/mdev = 37.2 us / 62.3 us / 15.8 ms /   67.2 us
  ioping: sequential read speed
    generated 26.4 k requests in 5.00 s, 6.44 GiB, 5.28   k iops, 1.29 GiB/s
  
  dd: sequential write speed
      1st run:    619.89 MiB/s
      2nd run:    775.34 MiB/s
      3rd run:    774.38 MiB/s
      average:    723.20 MiB/s
  
  IPv4 speedtests
      your IPv4:    165.227.96.xxxx
  
      Cachefly CDN:         183.84 MiB/s
      Leaseweb (NL):        11.74 MiB/s
      Softlayer DAL (US):   6.29 MiB/s
      Online.net (FR):      11.81 MiB/s
      OVH BHS (CA):         34.46 MiB/s
  
  IPv6 speedtests
      your IPv6:    2604:a880:800:xxxx
  
      Leaseweb (NL):        12.01 MiB/s
      Softlayer DAL (US):   4.41 MiB/s
      Online.net (FR):      23.50 MiB/s
      OVH BHS (CA):         36.51 MiB/s
  -------------------------------------------------

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by dx034 »

simplyinfinity wrote: post #294
e12e wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you need a load balancer if you don't have enough traffic to justify a beefier dedicated box with a few tb data included and a proper gb uplink? Are you streaming game/3d data or something where each request is really compute heavy, but data is less than 100mbs? [ed: never mind - 20tb included for the cheapest box. That's a bit of a departure from earlier. That's 60 mbps sustained 24/7 for a month. That's prob…

If one machine goes down (updates, hacked, hardware failure) i still need to have a second one that can handle the incoming requests

Either you use a third-party service like Cloudflare or you need to address this via DNS. A load balancer just adds a potential point of failure.
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