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The Challenges of Being in the New Contract Workforce

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Re: The Challenges of Being in the New Contract Workforce

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Nice platitudes. Do you believe that poor people are similarly incapable of buying car insurance?

yes sometimes they are - because they are poor. The reason many poor contractors can't afford things like disability insurance is because they don't have the money. They have sub optimal spending habits thanks to poverty traps when they have much less income to begin with.

Please read the full context of the conversation. This is not a discussion about whether a specific poor person might have enough dollars in their pocket to buy disability insurance. This is a discussion about whether or not poor people have the cognitive ability to purchase disability insurance. The OP suggested that by the very nature of being poor a person should not be expected to be able to attain the "expertise" required to purchase disability insurance.

My contention is that this is a disgustingly classist view against poor people. Poor people, by and large, seem perfectly capable of purchasing car insurance, and disability insurance is generally less complicated.

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post #136

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Being a contract developer is a happy place to be. Here are some things you haven't mentioned. * Contract developers have greater flexibility on taxes. "Pass through" entities are big now. * Contract developers are more independent in a lot of ways. Some employees have clauses where they give up all IP they create. * Contract developers often move from project to project more, which gives them a better network effect…

The real question I have is what prospecting looks like, as that is typically the most difficult part of the process. In my experience, many BigCos like contracting through temp staffing agencies. Are there reliable sources of contract work? I have yet to find any, though I admittedly haven't been looking the hardest.

Staffing agencies are reliable sources open to all programmers, but I have never personally taken a contract from one.

The best paid work comes from a professional network. When I look for a new project I send an email to former co-workers and some past clients asking for leads. I then follow up on those leads.

Re: The Challenges of Being in the New Contract Workforce

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I'm totally cool with "contract" work (that's what I do in a way) so long as I: * Do the work from home or wherever I want * Use my own tools and equipment * Work when I want to (within reason) * Have a say in the deadlines * Can turn down projects But the minute you dictate my hours and where the work is done? No way.

> But the minute you dictate my hours and where the work is done? No way.

Isn't that how US law determines if someone is actually a contractor vs an employee?

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Am I in the minority here for being a contract developer who is happy to be in this place? * I make over 40% more than I did when I was full-time, and I was already in the top band for pay in my title. This far exceeds the 15% markup for self-employment tax. * My wife works full time so she has our back for health insurance * I can save way more for retirement with an SEP IRA than I ever could with a company-sponsore…

Just because you are a contract developer does not mean you earn a high income. Even in the United States.

I am sure that few in my situation would like to admit it. For most of my adult life I have worked as a programmer on a contract basis mainly online for rates or fees that are well below the market rate for my area. For the last few years I have worked for non-funded or poorly funded startups for very small income amounts and no benefits. Even for jobs that were on site, many of the opportunities were spelled out in the ad or description as low rates like $70 or even $40 an hour.

I am sure that people will find lots of reasons to believe that I did something wrong or am an exceptional case, but I don't believe that. I think I am just an exception in terms of people like me who will admit it.

I have had a few well paid contracts but the income isn't consistent.

But not every contract programming gig is rich. It just absolutely isn't. And not everyone can get those high paying gigs. Also for me I have been trying to get into business in startups and not all startups can or want to receive funding and somebody like me is taking those jobs and happy to have them.

Again, go ahead and try to say there is something unusual or wrong. about me. I maintain the only really unusual thing is that I am admitting it on HN.

My current startup does have a lot of potential so I am hopeful about future income.

Re: The Challenges of Being in the New Contract Workforce

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Employers can provide benefits for cheaper due to economies of scale buying a lot of them from big insurance orgs. Individual contractors, even if they weren’t already being pushed into possibly-exploitative relationships with companies like Uber et al., don’t get those discounts. Life on the other side of the API layer ain’t so rosy.

Is there not some kind of organization that one can join to increase buying power?

Not in software apparently.

Re: The Challenges of Being in the New Contract Workforce

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post #194

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Nobody's saying it's impossible or even difficult. But if I'm rushing from my shift at McDonald's to pick up my kid and drop them off at home with some dinner before heading to the late shift at Home Depot, I'm not going to be able to talk to an insurance agent who might very well be happy to walk me through it, let alone spend time actively thinking about what coverage I need.

You dodged my first question. Apply the same thing to car insurance. Are poor people generally incapable of attaining the "expertise" to be able to purchase car insurance?

Car insurance is much simpler than health insurance. Still, I expect most people without car insurance are poor, and the reason they don't have it is not simply a lack of money but also (and relatedly) a lack of time.

Generally yes, poor people are less capable of gaining the "expertise" to do many things, because they are busy trying to stay alive. It's textbook hierarchy of needs.

Noticed other replies; why the fixation on car insurance? I thought we were talking about structural impediments to poor people?

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I'm totally cool with "contract" work (that's what I do in a way) so long as I: * Do the work from home or wherever I want * Use my own tools and equipment * Work when I want to (within reason) * Have a say in the deadlines * Can turn down projects But the minute you dictate my hours and where the work is done? No way.

> But the minute you dictate my hours and where the work is done? No way. Isn't that how US law determines if someone is actually a contractor vs an employee?

There is freelance contract and contract employment. Those are two different things, but, yea, to a degree you're right.

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Nice platitudes. Do you believe that poor people are similarly incapable of buying car insurance?

That wasn't a platitude. That was a suggestion that the smart place to end the conversation was there. If you'd like to continue it, we can, it's just not easy over text.

Poor people seem perfectly capable of purchasing car insurance, as evidenced by the fact that millions of poor people have car insurance. What is it, specifically, about being poor that leads you to believe they lack the cognitive ability to purchase disability insurance? Or did you understand something other than cognitive ability when you read they couldn't attain "expertise?"

Re: The Challenges of Being in the New Contract Workforce

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We should uncouple insurance from employers anyway. Offering benefits such as insurance was a hack that started during WW2 so that companies could get around the idiotic wage freezes imposed by the government, and it gives your employer far too much power over your health.

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Keep this in mind when looking at the government's monthly job reports. We've set the wrong metric, so while unemployment may be low the power that would normally flow to workers from a tight job market doesn't exist here. “We find that 94% of net job growth in the past decade was in the alternative work category,” said Krueger. “And over 60% was due to the [the rise] of independent contractors, freelancers and contr…

IMO this is one of the many different manifestations of a financial squeeze (or at least a "power shift") against middle- and lower-class workers that has been growing over 50 years. What I find intellectually-interesting is the idea that it's a big hetereogenous system where different parts and aspects are "crumpling" (both concurrently and sequentially) rather than one big politically-noisy snap. Push kids towards…

Most things are this nuanced, but tabloids and headlines would rather condense everything to 140 characters.

Especially in economics, nothing is simple. Everything has branching consequences and influences. Nothing happens in isolation. Trends are the products of a thousand knobs being tuned according to another thousand knobs each.

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