We've been through that, vaccine manufacturers marketing, I don't remember having flu - because I've never been vaccinated on anything.
RIP the sick, elderly and very young that you interact with.
“The Problem Child of Seasonal Flu”: Beware This Winter’s Virus
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Re: “The Problem Child of Seasonal Flu”: Beware This Winter’s Virus
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
> My spouse did not. They … I asked our doctor if I essentially had a milder version of the flu because I got the shot and he Odd, I would have thought you'd be more familiar with the gender of your spouse than that of your doctor grin
Can we stipulate that you object to a certain gender-neutral singular pronoun so that you'll please stop making unsubstantive posts about it, like we've already asked? It's so tedious. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14217345
I wasn't objecting to anything, I just thought the phrasing was rather maladroit, and commented on it because it was a humourous grammatical mistake.
I am thankful that you linked to the post 9 months ago that dang objected to; that's definitely an improvement on the previous HN moderation pattern of reprimanding without a link. Is there any chance that you could expose to users a way to see what moderators have objected to in the past about themselves? I think this sort of individual openness would go a long way.
edit: Also, it'd help one keep track of what the HN moderators are concerned about.
Re: “The Problem Child of Seasonal Flu”: Beware This Winter’s Virus
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just did a quick google https://www.news-medical.net/news/20110614/Universal-influen...
That model is from 2011 and it looks like they made some predictions. How accurate did it turn out?
As you indicate, it's a model and based on the predicate of 100% immunization. It can't "turn out" until everybody is immunized. Also, like I said, quick Google, perhaps you can find something more relevant for your questions and share it.
But it does objectively suggest that immunization is economically cheaper for insurers, with and without 100% immunization rates.
Re: “The Problem Child of Seasonal Flu”: Beware This Winter’s Virus
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can we stipulate that you object to a certain gender-neutral singular pronoun so that you'll please stop making unsubstantive posts about it, like we've already asked? It's so tedious. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14217345
I wasn't objecting to anything, I just thought the phrasing was rather maladroit, and commented on it because it was a humourous grammatical mistake. I am thankful that you linked to the post 9 months ago that dang objected to; that's definitely an improvement on the previous HN moderation pattern of reprimanding without a link. Is there any chance that you could expose to users a way to see what moderators have obje…
The problem is that when humorous grammatical mistake overlaps with divisive personal and social issue, lightheartedness gets lost.
We've been thinking about building software support for something like what you're suggesting here. Not sure yet. But we'd like to give users more of a meaningful feedback loop, instead of generic reprimands, so there's a practical path to improvement. If you'd like to say more about what you think would accomplish that, we'd read it with interest.
The reason we don't often include specific links in moderation replies is that it's significantly more work, and these things already consume a huge amount of time, energy, and spirit.
Re: “The Problem Child of Seasonal Flu”: Beware This Winter’s Virus
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wasn't objecting to anything, I just thought the phrasing was rather maladroit, and commented on it because it was a humourous grammatical mistake. I am thankful that you linked to the post 9 months ago that dang objected to; that's definitely an improvement on the previous HN moderation pattern of reprimanding without a link. Is there any chance that you could expose to users a way to see what moderators have obje…
The problem is that when humorous grammatical mistake overlaps with divisive personal and social issue, lightheartedness gets lost. We've been thinking about building software support for something like what you're suggesting here. Not sure yet. But we'd like to give users more of a meaningful feedback loop, instead of generic reprimands, so there's a practical path to improvement. If you'd like to say more about wha…
> If you'd like to say more about what you think would accomplish that, we'd read it with interest.
I could imagine something like the current 'upvoted submissions / comments' section on the profile page, e.g. 'moderated submissions / comments'. I assume that your moderation tools are already tracking this sort of thing for you, because y'all often comment, 'as we've already asked you,' reaching back months or years into the past. You must already have something like this, due to how y'all comment in response to posts (presumably you don't have photographic memories!).
Although I'm thinking of a private implementation, lobste.rs is also doing some interesting work with public moderation: all moderator actions are public & documented with an ostensible justification by the moderator. That is at least completely open: User X did Y on date Z; he did A on date B; in response to this Moderator 1 executed action 2 on date 3 (and that action could itself be reviewed by some higher authority).
> The reason we don't often include specific links in moderation replies is that it's significantly more work, and these things already consume a huge amount of time, energy, and spirit.
I understand that, but please consider the spirit of someone who is implicitly threatened with a ban by someone in a position of power. He has no idea why he's offended, how often he's offended, and he's scared for what will happen: he's invested time to build up a reputation, and the moderator stands ready to destroy all that. We need moderators online much as we need police in the real world — but interactions online with moderators are just as stressful as interactions with police offline. This is all completely orthogonal to whether or not the moderator's actions are fair or correct. There's a strong power imbalance, and I think it's fair for moderators to be cognizant of that.
There's a huge difference between 'as I asked you once three years ago and once two years ago, but you can't really be expected to remember' and 'as we've asked you twice this week,' even though both are multiple warnings. Pointing out the magnitude of the issue can go a long way to reducing the stress of the situation to its appropriate level.
Re: “The Problem Child of Seasonal Flu”: Beware This Winter’s Virus
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
That model is from 2011 and it looks like they made some predictions. How accurate did it turn out?
As you indicate, it's a model and based on the predicate of 100% immunization. It can't "turn out" until everybody is immunized. Also, like I said, quick Google, perhaps you can find something more relevant for your questions and share it. But it does objectively suggest that immunization is economically cheaper for insurers, with and without 100% immunization rates.
Well, the reason I am somewhat incredulous is that health insurance rates have only risen as more and more people get vaccinated. Perhaps it is cheaper for the insurance companies but they are not passing this along?
Obviously, there are many other factors in play as well but I don't think anything has been "objectively suggested" just because someone created a model that hasn't been (and probably will never be) tested.
Re: “The Problem Child of Seasonal Flu”: Beware This Winter’s Virus
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
As you indicate, it's a model and based on the predicate of 100% immunization. It can't "turn out" until everybody is immunized. Also, like I said, quick Google, perhaps you can find something more relevant for your questions and share it. But it does objectively suggest that immunization is economically cheaper for insurers, with and without 100% immunization rates.
Well, the reason I am somewhat incredulous is that health insurance rates have only risen as more and more people get vaccinated. Perhaps it is cheaper for the insurance companies but they are not passing this along? Obviously, there are many other factors in play as well but I don't think anything has been "objectively suggested" just because someone created a model that hasn't been (and probably will never be) test…
Health insurance rates have a number of factors to consider, the least of which is a flu vaccine given by your corner pharmacy by a Physician's Assistant.
Getting the flu, or having a more severe case of the flu increases your chances of 1) going to see a real doctor instead of a P.A 2) being mis-prescribed antibiotics 3) emergency room care 4) Torts originating from severe disease while in a Doctor's care
Re: “The Problem Child of Seasonal Flu”: Beware This Winter’s Virus
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wish it was culturally acceptable to wear a hospital mask in public in the USA. I do it anyway and look like a weaboo or something, but still.
Since SARS in Toronto, it's become more and more prevalent, especially among Asians. I was in high school at the time, and we used to make fun of people wearing these masks, and how crazy they looked. Now in my older and wiser years, I realize that they were probably the smart ones!
In my experience people from Asia bring the culture with them, which might explain why it seems ethnically Asian people are wearing the masks more - they might just literally be Chinese or Japanese people, among whom it's totally normal.