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Re: Ending Bitcoin Support

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Why do you call it a shitcoin?

It has an uncapped supply, and inflates at 1% per year. It doesn't really seem to offer anything compelling other than its A-list investors. It was also created by the same person who brought the world eDonkey 2000, Mt. Gox, and Ripple.

Isn't it's main value prop fast transactions? It isn't really meant for storing value is it?

Re: Ending Bitcoin Support

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This reads a bit like the sort of things people say when breaking up so as not to upset the other person too much. You're a great person, but you're just more of an asset than a medium of exchange, and what I need in my life right now is a medium of exchange. What future does an asset have if people don't actually buy stuff with it? That is not a purely rhetorical question; cryptocurrencies change things a lot. But t…

> What future does an asset have if people don't actually buy stuff with it? Lots of assets have value without people buying things with them. Gold, houses, stocks, etc. The more interesting question is how long Bitcoin will remain top dog merely as a store of value if other cryptocurrencies solve this on-chain / off-chain scaling problem better / faster. There's definitely some amount of value in the name alone, and…

> Gold, houses, stocks, etc.

With a caveat that houses and stocks can provide cashflow in terms of rent payments and dividends / option income.

Re: Ending Bitcoin Support

#64

This reads a bit like the sort of things people say when breaking up so as not to upset the other person too much. You're a great person, but you're just more of an asset than a medium of exchange, and what I need in my life right now is a medium of exchange. What future does an asset have if people don't actually buy stuff with it? That is not a purely rhetorical question; cryptocurrencies change things a lot. But t…

Store value / Investment. You can buy gold, stocks, foreign currencies as means of investment. You can't pay your restaurant bill with them but that doesn't mean they don't have a future.

Gold, unilike Bitcoin, cannot be forked overnight with minimal effort, which makes gold much better store of value.

Re: Ending Bitcoin Support

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For what it's worth, we just spent two weeks trying and failing to get Stripe's Bitcoin integration working on our site. The short version is that Stripe guaranteed a USD BTC exchange rate for an hour, after which they would automatically cancel the transaction. Given that most transactions now take well over an hour to be verified on the blockchain, that means basically every transaction fails.

Did their api allow you to set the transaction fee?

Nope. We set a price in USD and get paid in USD, minus their usual fees. The price in BTC was determined by the current exchange rate, hence why they were only willing to honor the price for a short time.

Re: Ending Bitcoin Support

#66
post #18

For what it's worth, we just spent two weeks trying and failing to get Stripe's Bitcoin integration working on our site. The short version is that Stripe guaranteed a USD BTC exchange rate for an hour, after which they would automatically cancel the transaction. Given that most transactions now take well over an hour to be verified on the blockchain, that means basically every transaction fails.

If they "cancel" the transaction but it later ends up getting mined, who pays the fee for the return transaction?

Regardless of the answer, variable and large fees really do make this sort of transaction a minefield.

Re: Ending Bitcoin Support

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you call it a shitcoin?

It has an uncapped supply, and inflates at 1% per year. It doesn't really seem to offer anything compelling other than its A-list investors. It was also created by the same person who brought the world eDonkey 2000, Mt. Gox, and Ripple.

I don't have an opinion on Lumens but the fact that the supply is uncapped would make it much more suitable as a currency.

Re: Ending Bitcoin Support

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post #40

This reads a bit like the sort of things people say when breaking up so as not to upset the other person too much. You're a great person, but you're just more of an asset than a medium of exchange, and what I need in my life right now is a medium of exchange. What future does an asset have if people don't actually buy stuff with it? That is not a purely rhetorical question; cryptocurrencies change things a lot. But t…

My reading of this post is that Stripe has no particular love for Bitcoin, but wants to avoid the ire of the Bitcoin fans on the internet, and so it's coated in "Bitcoin is great, we were the first people to adopt it, we can't criticize it at all" etc. etc.

Stripe cofounder here. I think you're reading too much into it. We do think Bitcoin is cool. We're just trying to be as plainspoken and clear as possible about why we're doing what we're doing.

Re: Ending Bitcoin Support

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post #24

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They could also replace it with money, which one can readily and easily, through systems with well-understood protocols that are agreed upon by participants in those systems, exchange for goods and services. (Even the Lightning Network people don't think you should use it with money. Not that that's likely to be a problem, what with it being for Bitcoin and all. Stripe also doesn't support any other commodities as me…

You seem very confused about what money is .

I don't see the confusion. Care to explain?

Re: Ending Bitcoin Support

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They should have replaced it with Lightning Network, is amazingly fast and cheap and works on top of Bitcoin. I'm running a test node, this stuff really works! > Lightning is a decentralized network using smart contract functionality in the blockchain to enable instant payments across a network of participants. In case you are curious https://lightning.network and another good resource here https://www.reddit.com/r/B…

Sounds like a great startup opportunity to capitalize on a market underserved by Stripe.
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