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Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by ralala »

DisposableMike wrote: post #176

Is Hetzner not known to generally be a "bad" host? I have suffered so much abuse at the hands of their clients (DOS attacks, aggressive spidering/SQL Injection probing) that I've blocked their entire IP space on the majority of my client networks. I've never received a single response from their abuse report email/tool.

I guess the reason might be that their machines are cheap and thus they probably have many semi-professional / personal customers who leave their systems insecured.

Nevertheless, I have made very good experience with their hardware, network and customer support - so they are also suitable for professional customers.

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Post by cygned »

We are very happy to see that offering. We were planning to move our German SaaS from AWS to Hetzner anyway and with Hetzner Cloud we expect things to be a lot easier for us. Congrats and thanks, Hetzner team!

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by deadbunny »

DisposableMike wrote: post #176

Is Hetzner not known to generally be a "bad" host? I have suffered so much abuse at the hands of their clients (DOS attacks, aggressive spidering/SQL Injection probing) that I've blocked their entire IP space on the majority of my client networks. I've never received a single response from their abuse report email/tool.

We're blaming hosts for the actions of customers now?

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by maufl »

hmage wrote: post #193
maufl wrote: post #192

Why do I see a higher price in the web console than on the product page?

Because product page doesn't include VAT. But once you login the VAT is applied on the prices.

Makes sense, but not how it's usually done in Germany.

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by dx034 »

startupdiscuss wrote: post #186

Anyone know why this was upvoted? I can't tell it apart from the dozens of other "good" cloud providers (Lightsail, Digital Ocean, Vultr, Linode)

Same quality if you only need computing power but at a fraction of the price.

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by dx034 »

baybal2 wrote: post #183
chillidoor wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is still a demand for dedicated servers, although it is becoming more and more niche, I think.

Companies with actually performance constrained software without a doubt. There are not so few of them. There is a big pit in between own DC, and a lot of VM's in terms of economic scalability. Own DC pays pack when you have 500+ to 1000+ machines in a single location.

Isn't 500 servers still colocation range? That's only 30-40 racks, hardly a whole DC? Or are scale effects that low that DCs of that size make sense?

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by Hetzner_OL »

ralala wrote: post #106

Congratulations! Nice step. Are you also working on docker hosting and dbaas? I'm a german development contractor and long-term Hetzner customer. These are the only two missing features, causing us to still operate our own systems. Regarding the DSGVO: Do you support encryption of the filesystem?

Thanks for the suggestion about Docker/dbaas. I have passed it on to our development team. We don't usually publish what new products and features we are developing until they are ready, but we will continue to post information about upgrades as they develop.

Regarding the DSGVO: Do you support encryption of the filesystem? -> Hetzner Cloud servers are fully virtualized. So the customer can even fully encrypt the whole server. --Katie, Marketing, Hetzner Online

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by dx034 »

tobltobs wrote: post #138
dx034 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're comparing OVH's SSD where they don't guarantee speed and have 100mbit connections. Speed on those can be incredibly slow. For a fair comparison you'd have to use their public cloud instances which are 2-3x the price of Hetzner.

My understanding has been that OVH offers guaranteed bandwidth of 100mbit and Hetzners has a 10 Gbit network connection, but I would guess that this connection is shared and doesn't offer any guarantees. Hetzners free traffic is also capped at 20TB. Therefore I left this details away as it is difficult to compare. If would love to see a detailed comparison.

Hetzner has internal and incoming free. I only need that kind of bandwidth when I restore backups or load large datasets. That's either internal or infrequent and so far, I was always able to max out their bandwidth (haven't tested the cloud product yet).

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by zuzun »

darekkay wrote: post #119
zuzun wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You misread your source. Service providers outside the EU are not required to provide an imprint, even if their website is targeting German customers.

I'm quite sure I read it correctly. "Fazit" point 1: You do not need an imprint if you're outside the EU and you're not targetting EU citizens. Point 2: It's t he opposite , if you're outside the EU but you're targetting EU citizens. EDIT: added a source in English

Looks like we're both kind of right. Your original source is solely based on LG Siegen 09.07.2013 - 2 O 36/13, which said service providers from non-member countries don't require an imprint and the court's decision doesn't really align with what you said. However, the ruling was overthrown by OLG Hamm 17.12.2013 - I-4 U 100/13, which actually follows your interpretation of the law.
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